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scottie on 09 July 2009
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Squilliam said:
scottie said:
Squilliam said:
scottie said:

 

 

So what hardware sales are you expecting for the week including MH3 launch?

 

Not trying to disparage Halo, but Wii Fit is much bigger than Halo 3. WF+ might even outsell Halo 3 and will certainly outsell ODST.

 

Several things about the NSMB point

Who knows if it'll be enough to bring the Wii back to 2008 levels.

The fact that there is already a 3d mario is irrelevant. That's like saying that GT5 will not have an effect because MGS4 has already been released

2d on handhelds is not the only practical solution. SM64:DS is one of the best (selling) games this generation

The draw is improved graphics, presumably a longer game, 4 player multiplayer, YOSHI! and anythign else that we don't yet know about the game

So you're saying that last Christmas the 360 arcade was effectively $80? (200 - 60 - 60) You and I both know that bundles can't hold a handle to an actual price cut. The Wii could be much cheaper if Nintendo needed to boost hardware sales

I cannot say about the hardware sales specifically for MH3, I was never any good at determining the sales for a specific week im sorry. Im more interested in overall trends and im much better with those than determining sales one week or another.

Yes I grant that Halo 3 < Wii Fit. Wii Fit is a sensation on its own. Are you talking the hardware alone or hardware + software numbers? In anycase if it does outsell Halo it won't be because of the + attached to the title. Wii Fit sales seem synchronous with Wii sales, though now I think about it, with so many copies of Wii Fit selling with Wiis (likely) then an improvement in Wii Fit sales would proportionally increase Wii sales. Thats an interesting causation I hadn't thought of. I will have to ponder that one.

So you think that as Mario Kart winds down in effectiveness NSMB Wii will take its place? Comparatively how do you feel they will perform relative to each other? Whilst im not entirely convinced that NSMB Wii will be another Mario Kart for the Wii, I cannot say that it won't be either.

Regarding the Wii price, what im saying is that effectively a game title which if Japan is anything to go by would have been bought by 50% of Wii owners with the console, considering how well it does in Japan where theres quite a strong used market for games from what I hear is quite significant. The value of the game is not the sticker price, its the massive value people place in the game. A lot of people buy the Wii in whole or part because of Wii Sports. Because the title is so compelling, it does make the Wii effectively cheaper because people can and probably do leave the store with just a Wii without any games. Those Arcade games sucked, Wii Sports does not.

 

Fair enough

 

Agreed, Wii Fit plus may renew interest in the Wii from teh casuals, especially if Nintendo brings in a new advertising campaign for it. Or it may not, we shall see.

 

I wouldn't so much say that NSMB will take the place of Mario Kart, I doubt it'll sell as much by the end of the generation, to be honest, But it will be another Wii game that has high sales for at least 2 years, in the vein of Mario Kart or Wii Fit.

 

Oh, sorry I mistook your meaning there a little bit. Yes, I suppose one could almost consider the Wii to be at mass market price already due to Wii Sports, but Nintendo still have a lot of room for price cutting. It was estimated that Ninty made $49 profit on day 1. They could certainly afford a $50 price cut today and still be making profit, if they had a $100 price cut they may still break even, or close too. Compare that to Sony who is still selling the PS3 at a loss, and MS who are (as far as I know) approximately breaking even. I know that anecdotal evidence is crap and everything, but my parents are waiting for a price cut to buy a Wii