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If the Xbox had been a 120+ million selling console you can bet the 360 would have a bigger installed base right now. That's part of the reason why I think the 360 is overachieving and the PS3 is underachieving. It doesn't make sense to me to exclude the performance of the PS2 since I'm sure we can all agree that it gave the PS3 an advantage out of the gate (does anyone really think if the consoles were switched, Xbox 360 at $599 with Blu-Ray, etc, that it would have sold like the PS3 even if it had the exact same lineup?).