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twesterm on 19 June 2009
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JPL78 said:

Okay, bring up the 10 dollar price point has already been run into the ground, but I agree, it's 10 freaking dollars. Its an amazing deal for that amount of money.

$10 for a bad game isn't a good deal...

Second, why did you buy it without trying it first? You know they have a demo feature. Further more why are you still actively playing if it is that bad?

I don't like demos and that is my own fault.  I figured they would give me a bad deck and a bad opponent and that just wouldn't give me a good experience.  Also, I wanted the Garruk because I happen to need one more.  I admit getting the Garruk for $10 isn't a bad deal.

Also, I played as much as I did hoping it would get good.  I generally like to try games out before I go on long rants about them. 

I'm an experience magic player, I started playing with third edition, played hard core for a while and now days I've played off and on with the PC version. My friends are all gone and we don't have comic shops nearby so PC or xbox is my only way to play. PC is nice but I realized how stupid it was buying cards, of course I realized that after I spent a few hundred. Even at that I was always getting crushed by people with mongo collections and endless wallets.

I absolutely agree that buying cards on Magic Online is stupid.  I got into it for a while and had fun with the sealed and thought the interface was pretty well done but I just didn't like paying for the cards.

And yeah, it is annoying getting crushed by the people with infinite wallets, that's why I hoped this game would be different.  Everyone has the same pool of cards and you don't have to spend extra money for that same pool.  I was hoping you could pick from that pool and build your own deck.  Even if the pool was the preconstructed deck plus the 17 cards that would still be perfectly fine.

That would solve the overly powerful people and solves the infinite wallet people.  Not a hard concept.

In my opinion not being able to buy cards and build up super beef decks is a good thing. I hate you can't take the crap starting cards out when you get better ones. Otherwise everyone having access to mostly the same cards balances the game incredibly well. When I play someone online I don't have to wonder if they spent 2 grand on magic cards and beat me to a bloody pulp with rare power cards and cheesy combos. It's a leveled playing field and skill comes into play. Basically it takes the magic card collection penis measuring contest out of the game and it does wonders for it.

It's a leveled playing field that makes you rely more on luck than skill.  That isn't really that fun with Magic: the Gathering.

I've been having a blast and the sheer amount of decks you get for that cost is a wonderful deal. The timer is annoying sometime but even in your "10 second wait" scenario, its not that bad. Look at loading times on most video games. Hell, look at how long magic games could take in real life while people sit there and take ages to perform the simplest task. The time speeds things up while you are complaining about it slowing the game down./quote]

But that 10 second scenario wasn't a rare thing, it was every turn and multiple times a turn.  Imagine a game where you load for 10 seconds, take a few steps, load again for 10 seconds, repeat.

[quote]Look, this game will grow and evolve. There will be DLC with new decks and cards, there more than likely will be patches. They are only one patch away from letting you take starting cards out of your deck. I'm sure they are hearing complaints. Who knows what will happen. Either way I've already gotten my 10 dollars worth and will continue to play and enjoy it. If you don't like it don't play it. But stop sounding like its a complete massive rip off and no one should buy it when we already know many people are enjoying it and many other games cost much more money on the arcade and offer much less play.

But it is a massive ripoff because it's a bad game.  They can add more decks but unless they five those five fundamental problems I listed above, more decks aren't going to solve anything.

You still have the timer, you're still limited on the decks, and you completely lose the deck building game and the mind game.  All that you have left is a game of luck.