PS3 selling slower than original Xbox in US

[joeorc]

@moondeep

you stated this:

"If Sony had just used DVD9 and brought the price down to say the $250-300 range, then they would've lured more gamers into PS3 HW purchases early on, and thus profited in later years by much larger software sales. That has historically been the tactic used, in all major consoles except the Wii."

that's the problem i have with the View THE COST INCREASE WAS DUE TO "BLU-RAY"

i can tell you it was not.l.think about this for a sec.

The Cell processor was just put onto the market in 2006

vs'

Blu-Ray which was already on the market since 2003

which do you think is more expensive..?

as for being able to bring the PS3 down to the cost near to the Wii or the Xbox360 i pretty much doubt it do to the cost of component's that Sony USED vs' THE component's used by Nintendo and Microsoft ..for instance just look at the HEAT sink's in the 3 machines

the PS3 had the largest, heat sink and Fan out of all 3 machines . to this day it stll does. like i said it's the overall cost of the machine vs just parts if anything the Blu-ray drive would of been the one component that Sony was making a profit on the ps3 per optical drive installed, just the cost of the Cell, HEAT SINK, FAN pretty much killed that profit. at least for the time being.

as for your sources though entertsining, read...

are far from being expert's on it due to the fact that Sony has been investing into Blu-ray since 1997 the new's media act's like its something so new that Sony has taken deep cuts in its profit over Blu-Ray instead of the real culprit being the Cell processor not Blu-Ray. its just the fact unlike Blu-ray The Cell processor is pretty much New and it would and did increast the COST of the PS3 to a high cost than people would have liked.

when the PS2 was first released it too was considered too expensive by many it contained an expensive Bus, multiple processor's and a expensive DVD optical drive. do you think the expensive DVD optical drive was more expensive than the Rambus bus, and multiple processor chip's  in the ps2?

the PS3 without Blu-Ray would have cost near to or at the cost it was when it released. the fact they had Blu-Ray into the PS3 served multiple purposes

1) it gave developer's more room , it gave a scratch resistance to the disc. made the game harder to pirate, an lowered the cost permultiple disc package that was needed

example: a single layer 25 GB disc is cheaper to manuf. and produce than a single DL-DVD9, now a DL-BR 50 GB disc was more expensive than a DL-DVD9 but if your game only need's les than 25 GB it would be cheaper than if your game needed more than (1) DL-DVD9 Even if the DL-BR 50 GB disc would still be cheaper than multiple DL-DVD9's.

from Some consumer's the standpoint it make's no real advantage to use Blu-Ray over DVD when Blu-Ray was released, and it created the price increase to the PS3 , but that does not mean the advantage's were not there or worth it. like i said it just depends on your OPINION on the matter. from a industry perspective it made perfect sense for Sony to go that route because they are after all a hardware company they invested into Blu-Ray for so many year's before the PS3 was even released that it would have been a waste for them not to use it. I think many are just over looking the investment vs' what seem's is too new and not needed argument, when Sony was looking at INVESTMENT put into vs' what they could loose out if they don't use it.

Sony being one of the Largest OEM's for Blu-Ray optical drive manuf. could make money on other companies buying their optical drives, or Diode's for their optical drives.

so the more they can ramp up the greater they can lower their cost. by putting the Blu-Ray drive into the PS3 thay already ramp up their production, and reduce their cost's in the long run. So in a sense Sony did look at it from a perspective of LONG TERM than Short term. did their market share suffer.." for the playstation product line" yes, was it a good choice for their company as a whole..? prob. not due to the fact that EVEN now being in last place with a QUOTE: 3 way race.. four if you count PC..there is only 4 runner's in the "cosnsole market" being last is expected when your the most expensive system among the 3...if anyone think's Sony would not have known they were going to be the least sold system among the 3....come on...PR speak aside ..they are going to do that no matter what company to prop up their position.

it's common sense in the market the most expensive would not have the most sale's.