phil said:
elnino334 said:
phil said:
elnino334 said: I'll take this guys word over any forum poster on here in terms of developing a game. Obviously people hate on him because he make not like what you like but at least he can actually talk about it in great detail. MikeG talks about him not wanting innovation just beause he talks down the PS3 but hey all I care about is that Valve is giving us gamers 5 games for $60 which by the way is also coming to the PS3 and he assure us will kick butt on there as well.
Again going back to "innovation" what the hell has the PS3 done that you would call innovative for this generation? Blue-ray? well there is HD-dvd that is just as good. Motion Sensing controls? Wii does it better. Online?Xbox live just plains kills it. Games? Only game to score over 90% overral is a 1 year port in oblivion. I am baised as I just don't like depending on "potential" as I am a sports fan and have seen so much money wasted on "potential" with players. This is what the PS3 is basically doing and in the end it won't matter one bit. When the games can stand out against the 360 the system well sell but until then just have to roll with the punches. |
Gabey-poo has a history of complaining about new technology. For example, before the current generation of consoles were even out, he was complaining about the fact that they were multi-cored: "Technologically, I think every game developer should be terrified of the next generation of processors. Your existing code, you can just throw it away." You don't have to throw the old code away, but it certainly won't be as fast as code that's optimized. This is how new technology works. He goes on to say that multi-core implementations are all doctoral theses and not practical. You can tell just by looking at what software is out and optimized for multi-core systems that this is a load of crap. The fact that he was complaining about it before he was even able to try and program for them further detracts from his credibility. It should also be noted that, since porting Orange Box was outsourced(to EA, I believe), he probably doesn't actually have experience programming on the PS3. Just because Valve puts out quality games like Half Life doesn't mean that their founder is bright. He probably hires bright people to do the work for him. As further evidence of this, please recall the keylogger/HL2 source leak fiasco. This sort of thing never happens to the likes of actually great programmers like John Carmack. |
Hey I don't know the guy but he seems pretty bright if his running a succesful company. You make it sound like bosses are idiots that hire smart people to do the work for them to make them seem smart. In the end he is just sharing his opinion like any forum poster but since we know who is unlike a forum poster I take it more seriously. |
I am not making it sound like bosses are idiots who just hire smart people, and I'm not sure where you got this idea. What I am implying is that running a successful company does not neccesarily make someone smart, and it certainly doesn't imply any sort of technical expertise. Using this logic, we should hold the CEO of Verizon up as a networking god. This is fallacious reasoning at it's worst. If Gabe Newell was the clever man you seem to think he is, he wouldn't have been running Outlook Express and had the source code to one of his company's most valuable products ever leak out to the Internet. |
Well that is what it sounds to me. Again I don't know the guy but just stating as an opinion that he seems pretty smart because he is the boss of a succesful business. He seems to know what his talking about similar to you I guess but I don't know what you do outside of posting. If you want to go out fo your way to research all his accomplishment by all means go ahead but I'll just take his opinion at face value based on the company he owns and what they have done. Again he seems like a smart guy and in terms of your outlook express example even smart people make mistake. In the end as I stated before this is all a matter of opinion and it seems we are better off agreeing to disagree :)