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FilaBrasileiro on 09 June 2009
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Bodhesatva said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Bodhesatva said:
outlawauron said:
Bodhesatva said:

Ratchet and Clank and Heavenly Sword were both bundled with the PS3 at different times.

Without those bundles, I'm not sure either game would have made it (particularly Heavenly Sword). It really depends on whether Sony bites the bullet and puts the game in a bundle.

They were only bundled in Europe for a small amount of time.

Look at their sales history: it's very clear when their bundle began, because sales spiked up very suddenly. Here's Heavenly Sword:


http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Heavenly+Sword+-+PS3®2=All&game2=®3=All&game3=&weeks=100&weekly=1

It's difficult to know how long the bundles lasted, because it's entirely plausible that, 4 weeks after the promotion, the game was still in unsold PS3 boxes that were produced during the offer but had not yet been sold.

Pretty clearly this has a noticable effect, Outlaw. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that this game will definitely make it if it is bundled, but may not make it if it doesn't. It still could, but may not. Army of Two is a reasonable comparison:

http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=13641®ion=All

This was a game that was never bundled with the system and started with comparable first week sales of 160k. It is now currently at .85 million. With slightly higher initial sales (about 12% higher) inFamous could make it without any help, but it may not.

Heavenly Sword or Ratchet were never officially bundled in the US and had limited bundled in PAL. That's a fact.

I didn't argue otherwise. If they had been bundled for long periods worldwide, they'd be closer to Motorstorm (3 Million) instead of stuck at the 1.0-1.5 million range. So we agree they were bundled for some time period in a major region, and this must have had SOME effect? Yes? Good.

That's a little pressumptious of you to think that I agree with you because I don't. The effect was negligible at best....soon enough you're gonna tell me that Uncharted wouldn't be close to 2 million if it wasn't for bundles.