if Nintendo had shown Natal instead...

[ironman]

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

ironman said:

TX109 said:

@ironman

i have yet to see a true answer to my motion questions. ill say it again since you seem to be avoiding it. how do you MOVE? by jogging or running in place? people will get tired of that. theres also the issue of space. im sure not everyone has a huge living room or room of choice for NATAL.

what about fighters like street fighter and soul calibur, how do you preform all those complex combos?

or how about arcade games?......................(i feel like im repeating myself)

please answer my questions instead of avoiding them.

OMG! I already explained this twice! Don't you people know how to read? I've never seen such a dense group of people in my life!

Moving: If you want to jump, jump. If you want to walk, walk in place, walk foreward, say "walk". If you want to straft, move sideways, say "straft left". If you want to crouch, crouch. If you want to hide behind something, move like you are moving behind it, and say "takeing cover". For complex fighting games, if you want to puch, punch, if you want to use a combo, just say what combo you want to do. if you want to do a complex combo, just say what combo you want to do while you act like you are punching. For arcade games, obviously just make the motion you want replicated. I

Buttons, triggers, thumbsticks, dpad: You don't need any of those. Anything you would do with a controller, you now physically perform the action, thus completely eliminating the need for any sort of a controller.

Facts that play into the whole argument: 

MS plans to make Halo and COD work with Natal, This should tell you they have a plan for controlls on FPS.

MS whole marketing campiagn is based on "You are the controller" adding a waggle remote would completely nullify the very core of their marketing sloagan.

MS will make sure that all games for NATAL will also work with the origional controller. This means, if you get tired playing with the motion control, or are just too fat and lazy (why would you buy NATAL at that point?) you can switch over to the regular controller. 

I hope this has answered everybody's questions. 

come on ironman, you make it sound like an English lesson with physical education!

i personally don't have that much patient to learn those cammands for one or more games, and also, not everyone speaks English the same way, you know

you will also need to speak too much, playing video games and speaking with someone won't work either and you can't tell everyone to shut up!!  i personally don't see any way this can work, at least the way you say it

walk in place like in Wii Fit could be cool actually, but jumping and all that movement will make it a bit tiring, but still could work for some time

the "you are the controller" concept actually limits the whole thing, nobody will learn commands for each game, that's for sure

 

so i think Natal is still limited, you can walk/move in place but for how long?

and if it's going to be playable with original controller why bother to buy Natal ( move for over 1 hour, learn english commands, get tired, pay extra money and all that)

Wow, way to change the argument. Sadly, you won't be winning this one either. As I already said, NATAL is not for everybody. Also, I beleive I stated that MS will be the deciding factor in how they approach the "commands" for NATAL. I'm sure with the software, they can definately formulate better ways to actuate movement in the game.

Nobody needs to "learn" the commands for every game. Assuming that MS even uses verbal commands, I suspect they would be canned, and synonimous to all games.

Voice recognition, does that mean anything to you? The NATAL VR system is based on Windows 7's VR system (and it is a very accurate one) Also, couple that with the facial recognition, and NATAL's software will be able to tell when you are talking, or joking around with other people, and when you are actually playing the game. Doubtfull? Read up on Milo, you can tell him jokes, he doesn't recognize the joke, but he recognizes your tone of voice, as well as your facial body language.

NATAL will immerse you farther into the game than a controller would, don't like that thought? Well here's a novel idea, don't buy it.