Is there a god?

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Rath said:

Ripper, prove the existence of god without first assuming that god exists.

 

Edit: Also 'God exists therefore God exists' is not a philisophical proof. Thats like me saying 'Elves exist because elves exist'.

You could say that the being of the universe is proof of God (which I think is what you were implying) but thats like me saying 'A little invisible elf sitting on my head causes it to rain', wheres the proof that the elf exists? Well it rains doesnt it?

What Im trying to get at is that the existence of the universe doesnt imply the existence of god.

ripper said:
thats the whole point. we are pee-ons God doesn't need us to prove that HE exists, from his point of view the whole thing is preposterous! I mean, an omnipotent God needing a being that he created to prove his existence

I can't prove anything, that is why it is called faith, but I believe once you are 'in' you know. You feel God in your life.

BUT lets stick with logic, what are the consequences if I am wrong? :nothing
If you are wrong: eternal damnation

Is he trying to say that rain is really God peeing on us? 

And I love how he turns so quickly to trying to scare people into religion.