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dtewi, I have no specific dates for the Wii passing the 360. My ban bet with Neos is more so him challenging me on the Wii passing the 360 before '08. I can't even think past March 08, and I still think the 360 will be ahead by then. I don't have a specific date though for your bet, so you'll have to count me out of that until I see some more data for Oct/Nov and have a better feel for Wii vs 360 in NA.