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txrattlesnake said:
Smashchu2 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Rei said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Rei said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
txrattlesnake said:

FF hasn't lost any steam. Both FFXIII and Versus XIII will achieve 3 to 5 million sales in Japan on PS3 this gen and GT5 will achieve 2 million + sales in Japan on the PS3 this gen. There's no doubt about it. And that means there will be a bump to at least 5 million PS3s sold in Japan following the release of FF Versus XIII there's really no doubt about it.

FFVII sold 3.97 million in Japan, X sold 3.0 million, and both of the first GTs on PS1 and PS2 sold over 2 million in Japan.

XIII is not VII... it never will be...

yes VII sold nearly 4 million X sold just 3 million and XII hasn't even sold 3 million woo! that's keeping that train chugging along...

You have statistics and facts going against you here... you haven't even come up with a plausable prediction yet...


   FFVII has not sold 4 millions in Japan and FFX has not sold 3 millions. 

 

 

 

Final Fantasy X has sold 3.02 million copies in Japan.  Look a this page (http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=759®ion=All) and then find the part where it says sales history.  Then look for the column heading Japan.  It says FFX sold 1,906,152 copies in its first week in Japan and 3.02 million ltd.

If you round FFVII's sales figures upwards by the slightest of margins, then it has sold 4 million copies in Japan.  Look at this page (http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=756®ion=All), follow the same steps as with FFX, and you'll see that FFVII sold 2,025,834 copies in its first week in Japan and 3.93 million copies ltd.  Virtually 4 million copies.

Didn't realize people were still posting here. It looks like the comments improved.

One thing to remeber Rattlesnake is that Final Fatasy doesn't seem to move units outside of Japan. In Japan, both FF7 and 10 increased sales, but was for a short time (usually 3-4 weeks) with it's peak being week one. Expect that when FF13 comes out for everyone to praise the PS3, only for hardware sales to come down a week or two later. It will not move the system past the 360.


     I think when PS3 hits the 5 to 7 million mark while the 360's is only about 1.5 million in Japan, then you will see less reason for most Japanese studios to make 360 games especiallye PS3 in that sweet spot for Japanese developers where you will see more games from Japanese developers appearing on the PS3.  Thwhen they can sell many more copies of their games in Japan alone on PS3 than they can sell of  any game they would put on 360 worldwide.  So, I don't predict that the FFs and GT 5 by themselves will put the PS3 ahead of the 360 worldwide.  What I feel that they will do is put those three games will also ensure that the PS3 has enough sales in the rest of the world to continue to get the same big Western third party games that the 360 does.

     One complaint you hear from people about the PS3 is that its library and the 360's game libraries are too similar to each other.  However, when the PS3 hits that sweet spot with Japanese developers which it will reach, then you will see much more differentiation between the PS3 and 360's game libraries due to the influx of more Japanese games on PS3.

     One way Microsoft could offset that would be to make stronger ties between itself and smaller Western third parties; however, I think we're too deep into this gen and they're too close to starting to put more serious thought or work into their next console that Microsoft isn't much interested in doing that with the 360. 

 

That wont happen. Right now, Japanese developers put the DS first. The Wii is probably starting in for a distant second. What you suggested wont happen becuase it is easier and produces more revenue to put it one either console. In this way, the publisher increase the number of people they can sell to. Look at games like Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4. They are helped a lot by this.

The other problem with your idea (as it basically is saying "PS3 will dominate becuase more games will come") isn't fesible becuase it takes to long for a game to come out on those systems. It can be done on the DS, PSP and to a lesser degree, the Wii, but not on the 360 and PS3.

What I think many people are forgetting is that Sony will have to release a system when Microsoft does. These companies are competing on symetric values, so if they did not respond, they would lose market shares.