MaxwellGT2000 said:
Rei said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Rei said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
txrattlesnake said:
FF hasn't lost any steam. Both FFXIII and Versus XIII will achieve 3 to 5 million sales in Japan on PS3 this gen and GT5 will achieve 2 million + sales in Japan on the PS3 this gen. There's no doubt about it. And that means there will be a bump to at least 5 million PS3s sold in Japan following the release of FF Versus XIII there's really no doubt about it.
FFVII sold 3.97 million in Japan, X sold 3.0 million, and both of the first GTs on PS1 and PS2 sold over 2 million in Japan.
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XIII is not VII... it never will be...
yes VII sold nearly 4 million X sold just 3 million and XII hasn't even sold 3 million woo! that's keeping that train chugging along...
You have statistics and facts going against you here... you haven't even come up with a plausable prediction yet...
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FFVII has not sold 4 millions in Japan and FFX has not sold 3 millions.
Original FFVII sold only 3.2 million in Japan. Original FFX did 2.3 million and original FFXII did 2.3 as well. FFXIII is expected to do the same. There is no decline in sales of the series in Japan. These 4 millions for VII and 3 for X came from all of the additional re-releases these games got, and for some stupid reason vgchartz combines all these versions into one. Famitsu and Media Create dont do that, I dunno why vgchartz does.
Final Fantasy has lost some steam during the PSone -> PS2 transition. But right now, FF series is as popular as it was in 2001.
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So what if you account for PS2 -> PS3 what is there to say the same transitional decrease would happen as you brought up. To sell sell 2.3 million on PS3 would mean it'd have to sell to over 2/3 of the PS3 owners in Japan which is a statistical improbability.
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I am expecting a loss in sales compared to FFX/FFXII. But only a 10% loss. So basically I am expecting the game to sell 2.1m in Japan.
And I wouldnt be so sure about 2/3 attach rate being statistical improbability, Final Fantasy X launched on a userbase of 4.5m PS2 in Japan and went on to sell 2.3 millions of copies and it sold extremely fast (1.45m first day, 1.75m first week) - that's 50% attach rate right there. MGS4 launched on a userbase of 2.1m PS3 in Japan, went on to sell 700k copies, once again - it sold extremely fast, that makes it 30% attach rate. Not to mention that it is not far behind MGS2 and MGS3 sales in Japan. And this is Metal Gear Solid, not Final Fantasy.
We'll have to wait and see. PS3's userbase will certainly limit FFXIII's sales potential in Japan, but I think you are mistaken in thinking that it will limit it too much.
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Hrm where did you get the userbase figure for FFX sales if you don't mind my asking? Plus 2.3 would be more of a final sales do you have sales numbers for say launch week and the first 3 months?
It's not that I'm really apposed to it's sales potential I don't think it'll sell quite as well as it has in the past and will not be the system seller it's being made out to be, it'll move consoles but he was talking millions and I can't list a single game that sold a million consoles by itself.
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http://garaph.info/index.php
I can't give a direct link, it doesnt work. Just proceed to the japanese hardware graph generator, chose Famitsu data (MC wasnt around back then), FFX launched on 2001-07-19.
Regarding its console selling power, that totally depends on Sony and their actions. Previous FF games moved 100-150k hardware on their launch, the XIII demo moved 60k PS3s. But of course it isnt going to sell millions of PS3s, whoever made that claim doesnt have a clue.