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I don't hold a strong opinion one way or another about this issue, I really don't care. But could you Nintendo fans stop grasping for straws regarding this issue? I mean, XiaoMay just said that Guitar Hero and Rock Band are core games. Seriously, what? And the thread creator basically ran out of games on his list, so he was forced to use games we've never heard about. I mean, "That Muramasa game?" And I guess you could pride yourself on a couple ports that are core games, but I wouldn't. The PS3 and 360 get plenty of casual games, and some of them sell well. I'm sure a list of casual games on the PS3 would tower above any list of hardcore games on the Wii. Doesn't make a difference, since people should just stop being insecure and play their games.