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Rath said:
luinil said:

Vlad, question: when do you think the baby becomes a human, and therefore has the right to life provided by the laws of the land (edit: as in the US Declaration of Independance)?

Is it:
1) At conception. (day 0)
2) At the beginning of the second Trimester. (week 12)
3) At the beginning of the third Trimester. (week 24)
4) At birth. (birthday)

Or some other more or less indefinable (at this time) point during the pregnancy?

I'm going to answer this even though its not directed at me cos I think its sorta important.

I think its somewhere between 26-30 weeks, thats about where certain connections in the brain start to develop and before that there really isn't too much going on in there. However I think abortion should be prevented slightly before that, the law should cut it off somewhere between 20-24 weeks.

And this is where the real clash of Pro-life and Pro-Choice lies. When do we give the baby the right to life. The Pro-Life group believes it starts at Day 0. Several of the reasons they believe that are founded in religion, to be sure, but there are non-religious Pro-Lifers as well.
The Pro-Choice group believes it starts sometime after Day 0. They don't all agree on when life starts (nor do the "self-titled" Pro-Lifers either I might add), but they believe that up until that point, it should be the choice of the woman to abort.

The reason the clash is so vehement, lies in the fact that we are talking about life and the ending of life, and ostensibly what many consider murder. The view that life begins at Day 0 would tend to see abortion as murder and such a heinous crime, because the baby has no chance to defend itself, and can make no choices about it's own future. Therefore the people who can do something should.

The question I must ask is this, do you know for 100% certain that the baby doesn't do what you think beforehand, or maybe your definition of when life begins is based on faulty assumptions? Could you be wrong? What if life really does begin at Day 0?

My take on those questions is this, Where else can we deem it the creation of life, and therefore a human? imho there is no other option. Take it for what you will.