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luinil said:
ManusJustus said:

Rant:

This is were a lot of religious people are confused.  Its human nature to (illogically) make things much simpler than they actually are so that they can understand them.  Thats why we have religion and superstitions in the first place.  I'm an athiest myself, but I have a lucky shirt that I play golf in because I dont understand why sometimes I have good games and bad games.  Even though every game of golf I play could be broken down and completely explained by physics and mathemathical equations, my lucky shirt is a lot easier to comprehend and deal with on a daily basis.

Which gets me to the subject, Christians want to ban condoms and birth control because they want God to decide wether they get pregnant or not.  In reality, wether or not you are getting pregnant can be determined before you have sex (efficiency of sperm, flow of sperm, time of month in regard to ovulation, etc.) but they would rather leave it in the hands of a 'lucky' God than use a supercomputer to punch through the equations.  But who can blame them, I no one else would want to either.

The problem is when religious people start to push their superstitions onto others.  I'm not going to force my golf partner to wear one of my lucky socks, nor do I actually believe that any of these superstitions makes a difference.  Leaving it in God's hands is not a good idea for a hormone raged teenager, and not providing them with proper sexual education and birth control is just plain stupid. 

(This is not directed at mesoteto).

I know that this was not aimed at me either, but... the bolded just made me go, "errr.... wat?" (sp. intended)

Let me clarify this for you really quick. Most Christians do not want to ban birth control and condoms. The strict principles of the Catholic church dictate the banning of such things, not that all Catholics adhere to those principles these days. I am sure some Protestants would like to see them banned to, but most do not.

At the italicised part, I think education plays an important part as well. I also believe, however, that there needs to be a shift of the culture away from the sensationalized in-your-face sexual shows, icons, movies, ads, etc. that we see. Teach the kids to hold down the hormones and to control urges. You don't have to act on every impulse. To be able to control your impulses, that is part of what makes us human. We need to de-sexualize the culture. Sex is something that should be shared between two people, and kept in private; it is not something to be flaunted and paraded around.

I shouldnt have said ban, 'dont want people to use' would be more fitting and what I actually meant.  I'm sorry that I give both words similar meaning in my lexicon.

Sex has been sensationailized since man (and our ancestors) have been around.  Roman brothels were full of patrons for the same reason porn is heavily downloaded on the internet, and our hormones and animal instincts aren't going any where any time soon.  Asking a horny teenager not to ignore his body and not have sex isn't much different that asking somebody to ignore their body and leave their hand on a hot stove.

You cant tell an 17 year old boy to resisit his hormonal urges, if he wants to have sex he is going to have sex.  As a parent or member of society, the best we can do is make sure he has the knowledge and supplies to practice safe sex.