Gallup: More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice” for First Time

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vlad321 said:

appolose said:

vlad321 said:

No, anti-abortion is direct control over the mother's body and what she can do with it. It would be the same as me going over the bathoom and masturbating and getting thrown in jail over it.

 

 

"You would agree that the government would have all the rights in the world to protect a fetus provided it is a human being, correct"?  It is the anti-abortionists position that the fetus is a human, so they are not advocating that the government have direct control of the women's body.  Again, would you consider it an encroachment of a person's rights if the government prevented a person from killing their six year old child?  Of course not.  Why?  Because you consider the six year old a human, and thus it has it's own rights.  And the anti-abortionists considers the fetus to be human, and thus think it has its own rights.  So, they do not advocate the idea that the government can tell you what do with your own body. 

 

Yes, however that fetus is inside of the woman and therefore you control her body and tell her what she does and doesn't. If you so want that fetus, get it out of her and support it elsewhere, but she has to have the option of not having it in her, plain and simple.

 

And to draw a comparison:

6-year-old: has legs, talks or makes sounds, comprehends surroundings, acts on stimuli based on something other than instinct, has a working brain with a measureable brainwave, conscious, has chromosomes, etc.

early fetus: clump of cells, no mobility, no brain, no consciousness, reacts based on instinct, no sounds whatsoever, poentially turns into said 6-year-old.

sperm: clump of cells, has chromosomes, mobility, no brain, no consciousness, reacts based on instinct, no speech or sounds, potentially turns into a 6-year-old.

"Yes, however that fetus is inside of the woman and therefore you control her body and tell her what she does and doesn't. If you so want that fetus, get it out of her and support it elsewhere, but she has to have the option of not having it in her, plain and simple".

 Even if the fetus is fully human?  If so, that's the equivalent of saying countries have the right to execute their citizens whenever they want because they live in their country.

Anyways, to add to that comparison:

Fully grown dog: has legs, talks or makes sounds, comprehends surroundings, acts on stimuli based on something other than instinct, has a working brain with a measureable brainwave, conscious, has chromosomes, etc.

Yet, I don't consider it human.