The Ghost of RubangB said:
Slimebeast said:
Rath said:
Slimebeast said:
largedarryl said:
That is a perfectly fine position to have and there isn't anything wrong with it, but faulting all of evolution theory based on the reasoning that bacteria do not ever evolve into muli-celled organisms is being a little narrow minded. I thought there was some evidence proving that multi-celled bacteria couldn't exist based on some traits that exist in bacteria.
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I doubt it. That sounds like a spin argument to me.
If that was the case I just wanna ask why the bacteria are so dumb not to just "devolve" back then, to the point where they have the ability to branch off to multicellular organisms just like eukaryotes can. It shouldn't be so hard. I can see huge benefits with it too, no one can deny that.
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What environmental pressures would cause that to happen?
Just because it seems advantageous to us doesn't mean that the laws of nature will cause it to happen, nature rarely causes evolution where it is disadvantageous to the population.
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As I said above, that's such a weak defense (or lack of understanding of the problem... maybe Im bad at explaining).
What environmental pressures would cause that to happen? you ask. How about pretty much any environmental condition you can imagine! Since bacteria live everywhere, and there's millions of factors and dynamics surrounding them that have potential to be "environmental pressure" to all sorts of stuff.
I wanna see bacteria-rabbits, bacteria-giants, bacteria that weight 1 milligram and 1 tonne, bacterias that have feet, bacterias that have eyes, bacteries that have feelings, bacterias that use tools, bacterias that form civlizations.
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Oh... so you set up rules to accept it, that are impossible.
If I saw all those types of bacteria, that would actually convince me of intelligent design.
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I hope you're not looking for flaws just for the sake of "winning" a debate, and make me show in a bad light? That's not me. I always use sweeping arguments and generalizations and drastic examples, so it's damn easy to nail me against a wall for some minor details I may say, that are harder to back up.
I was showing the essence, the sense moral should be apparent with the example of what kind of bacteria "I want to see".
(Im counting on the reader to not be a childish nit picker)