3 years PS3 - no innovation, just Shooters?

[forevercloud3000]

twesterm said:

forevercloud3000 said:
You want innovative? Its sitting all around you, staring you in the face.

Little Big Planet, enough said. That game has more innovation then anyone could possibly want. So many options and levels of customization it will make your head spin. Go see some of the levels people have made(like Luminous Dream that Jo21 and MM showed me) and tell me that is not crazy brilliantly innovative.

Resistance and Resistance 2 are not as "generic" as most like to peg them as. While they are shooters, I think their weapon selection is where they excel. I have never heard of a Bullseye like weapon in any other game(maybe becuz I never played shooters really b4 this gen). This goes for many of the Res universe of weaponry. THEY are what make those games fun.

Killzone2 is awesome, regardless of innovation. Why is innovation even necessary for every game? K2 does what FPS gamers love........RIGHT! It does change the game in small ways, such as the spawn grenades(which rectifies that little issue of people camping spawn points from other shooter).

Heavenly Sword was an awesome and unique game. You could use SIXAXIS for the "Aftertouch" throwing/firing mechanism which was loads of fun. The controler setup for Nariko's 3 stances was brilliant.

Valkyria Chronicles, Bet you have never played anything like it.......mainly because it doesnt exist.

Folklore utilized sixaxis functions as well in the MOST unique(and best) way I have seen. You actually grab/pull/tug/thrash Folk souls with the tilt by swaying it rapidly in different directions. Almost like fishing........but for souls, it was great.

and as you said, there are games like Eye of Judgment and so on floating around.

The thing is games shouldn't have to be innovative, bcuz you know what happens then? People feel unfamiliar about it so they don't go rushing out to buy it (Valkyria Chronicles, ICO, Folklore anyone?). They sell only decent maybe but not enough to warrent a sequel and in turn, more innovative games. Society likes their rehashes and doesn't like to be introduced to new things, even though we think we do.

First off, I'm going to start with I don't agree with the OP.  The PS3's library is just fine but I did want to mention some of the games mentioned.  Since this post had most of the games I thought were going to be mentioned, I just quoted it (and I didn't want to read the entire thread).

• Little Big Planet -- You could have left it at enough said.  It's fairly well known I don't think it's the uber fantastic game everyone says it is but it is creative and innovative.
• Resistance -- This was the biggest beef I had with your post.  Yes, it has some different weapons but these games just scream generic.  They aren't bad but they aren't anything special.  In fact, the first one is only not bad because it's a throwback to classic shooters.
• Killzone 2 -- You're right when you say not every game needs innovation but wrong when you say Killzone 2 has it.  KZ2 is your basic shooter wrapped in a very pretty shell with some fantastic atmosphere and this is not a bad thing at all.  Yes, yes, I know OMG FIRST PERSON COVER!!, meh, cover has been done before and done better.
  
• Heavenly Sword -- This game wasn't that awesome and wasn't that unique.  Yes, it had some SIXAXIS features that funny enough would be called gimmicks if it were on the Wii, but besides that it's God of War with tits.  This is an example of a good God of War clone whereas something like X Blades is an example of a bad God of War clone.
• Folklore -- I agree that this is some of the best SIXAXIS controls but the good really stops there.  Still though, mark this one as a creative notch.
• Valkyria Chronicles -- see LBP
• Eye of Judgment -- Another innovative game but it was. just. so. bad.  The game is horribly unbalanced and pretty much turns into whoever goes first wins.  Also, the card recognition was sketchy at best.

Also, I completely agree with your last paragraph.  Innovation is a huge risk while same ol' same ol' is not.

 

Ok, Ill give you Resistance and its weapons. Yet what about Killzone2? I have never heard of another game allowing you to lay down spawn grenades, that to me seems to be a fix long over due in a FPS. It corrects the long time cheat of camping spawn points for easy kills.

If you didn't like Heavenly Sword, we can no longer discuss it because I down right loved it. It was my first PS3 game I purchased and I down right adored the combat and Story. The only thing it lacked was length. and the "aftertouch" was a nice touch to HS, there is no denying that. And Nariko's Heavenly Blades were very different in the way they are handles compared to Kratos's. Kratos doesn't have the brilliant Speed,Strength, and Range seperated combat styles which actually adds to the level of creativity to battles. Everytime I play the game I somehow discover a new combo I previously had never done.