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If watching ugly people have sex disgusts you, then in that sense yes it's the same. That argument can't be used to suggest that gay sex is natural, though. Your argument: "Ugly people having sex disgusts me and is natural; gay sex is therefore natural by virtue of the fact that it disgusts me." Which would have to mean that any type of sex that is disgusting to you is therefore natural, and that conversely any type of sex that is not disgusting to you is unnatural... obviously that doesn't fly.


Edit - I've already given a solid argument that a universal set of rules (morals) must exist; I've also given solid reasons why I'm suggesting it's the Bible. I've really addressed everything here. We're certainly at the point of simply agreeing to disagree (unless of course someone were to concede, and it wouldn't make sense for me specifically to do that).

I just wish that so many people these days didn't think that the greatest "wrong" you can do someone is to suggest that they might be doing something wrong.


"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later."   -C.S. Lewis

"We all make choices... but in the end, our choices... make us."   -Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

Prediction: Wii passes 360 in US between July - September 2008. (Wii supply will be the issue to watch, and barring any freak incidents between now and then as well.) - 6/5/08; Wow, came true even earlier. Wii is a monster.