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I believe MGS 4 would be lucky to break 1 million sales ltd on XBox 360 if it releases on the 360. MGS 4 would be spread over 4 or 5 XBox 360 game discs. Past trends have shown games being delayed by more than 12 months adversely impact on game sales. If MGS 4 is not announced at E3 09 it will have just been nothing more than an unsubstantiated rumour.