@Kasz216 - Doesn't seem like you're particularly trying to disagree with me, so I won't really attempt to argue. You've pretty much introduced the points from which I could form the arguments anyway. I'll just single out the point of dark matter and say that you could still categorize that as evidence picked up by the senses through instrumentation, with a little additional inferrence tacked on at the end. But because of that, we can't exactly prove the theory (and therefore don't exactly "know") since all we have is some evidence, though I have no personal reason to doubt it's validity either. There is still a great deal of mystery regarding dark matter. Cool subject though. But that we can know things other than what we can sense really only helps my case here.
@apostrovich - Yes, turned them gay by *altering their natural biology*. I hope they don't end up doing that to all the fruit flies of the world, or else there won't be any more baby fruit flies and they'll go extinct. Of course... who really needs 'em (damn things), but you get the point. I'll address the larger post tomorrow; don't have time tonight. (Just so you know, we've been going at it here pretty hard, but as much as I may not agree with your side here, it's been a fun debate and I don't hate ya or anything. Just thought it might be good to be clear on that. And I don't hate gays either, really, just don't agree with what they do. And find it pretty disgusting, to be honest; and I think you do to, since you at one point said you don't care what they do, but made sure to tack on a "as long as I don't have to see it.")
"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later." -C.S. Lewis
"We all make choices... but in the end, our choices... make us." -Andrew Ryan, Bioshock
Prediction: Wii passes 360 in US between July - September 2008. (Wii supply will be the issue to watch, and barring any freak incidents between now and then as well.) - 6/5/08; Wow, came true even earlier. Wii is a monster.







