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sqrl - yes those games would count. you are buying the game and the accessory is the pack-in. you are not buying the accessory and the game is the pack in.

and I still say wii play shouldnt count in determining an actual attach rate. its like counting controllers. you pay $40 for controller and $10 for a game what do you supposed was you motivation for that purchase??

if wii owners need to see these games on the charts to feel better about themselves and thier console thats ok. but when you want to see how many games people are going out and purchasing you dont include them. pucrchasing a controller is not the same as purchasing a $60 game. You got to compare apples to apples.

no other site includes wii sports, and the whole point of this post was to highlight the PS3's good software sales. and to show how good i gave a point of reference. i just used logic and compared games to games, instead of games to consoles & controllers.

OH and what mod banned me? that idiot needs to be banned for abuse of power. I did NOTHING wrong, no personal attacks. just debating validity of including controller sales on a software chart.