These people seem to be the only ones that even remotely get it.
100 points
RolStoppable said:
The goal of PlayStation always was to replace PCs. Kutaragi saw Microsoft as their biggest competition even before they entered the market with the Xbox. The PS3 comes closest to the original vision of Kutaragi, i.e. gaming only being a part of the system and not even necessarily the main draw of the console.
It's questionable how much Sony cares for console gaming and gamers after all their actions this generation. Similar to Microsoft they see console gaming and gamers as gateway to their greater goal: a set-top-box for the living room.
Microsoft doesn't really see Nintendo as a threat, the Wii doesn't aim to be a set-top-box, it's simply a game console for the most part. All the big money of Microsoft goes to blocking Sony, be that creating substitutes for popular PlayStation only games or buying third party exclusivity. The attempts to compete with Nintendo are usually halfassed (even Microsoft's "casual" games seem to copy PS games) and Microsoft didn't even mind to release Viva Pinata on the DS.
The point of my post: Nintendo is the only company out of the three that really cares for console gaming and gamers (yes, I am aware that this may sound insane to some people). The industry would have headed towards selfdestruction if it weren't for the Wii and DS which appeal to a large number of people and have by far the lowest development costs of the current generation systems (Wii vs. PS3/360 and DS vs. PSP). These two things are the most important points for console gaming, they keep the business going and allow risks which results in more varied games which is also in the best interest of gamers.
The goal of PlayStation always was to replace PCs. Kutaragi saw Microsoft as their biggest competition even before they entered the market with the Xbox. The PS3 comes closest to the original vision of Kutaragi, i.e. gaming only being a part of the system and not even necessarily the main draw of the console.
It's questionable how much Sony cares for console gaming and gamers after all their actions this generation. Similar to Microsoft they see console gaming and gamers as gateway to their greater goal: a set-top-box for the living room.
Microsoft doesn't really see Nintendo as a threat, the Wii doesn't aim to be a set-top-box, it's simply a game console for the most part. All the big money of Microsoft goes to blocking Sony, be that creating substitutes for popular PlayStation only games or buying third party exclusivity. The attempts to compete with Nintendo are usually halfassed (even Microsoft's "casual" games seem to copy PS games) and Microsoft didn't even mind to release Viva Pinata on the DS.
The point of my post: Nintendo is the only company out of the three that really cares for console gaming and gamers (yes, I am aware that this may sound insane to some people). The industry would have headed towards selfdestruction if it weren't for the Wii and DS which appeal to a large number of people and have by far the lowest development costs of the current generation systems (Wii vs. PS3/360 and DS vs. PSP). These two things are the most important points for console gaming, they keep the business going and allow risks which results in more varied games which is also in the best interest of gamers.
500 points
megaman79 said:
This is the reality of modern technology. The mobile is the most threatening example of multi purpose technology around and Apple know this all too well.
Look at whats happening to tvs, theyre getting built in hard drives and pvr's in addition to internet access. Look at mobile phones, internet, cameras, video, etc.
Look at all the latest downloadable everything products, cloud software, gaming, etc. Smaller laptops, your not going to need big memory if its all online for you.
All this stuff is a threat to somebody. MS along Sony or Nintendo are being threatened by this new wave of multi function everything.
Remember that Nokia is now the largest manufacturer of camera's in the world.
I believe the first sign of what is happening occurred, not when MS got into gaming but, when Apple decided to make phones. They crossed over into virgin (arguably bcoz of the lack of user fr
iendly aps on high end mobiles) territory and have been slowly converting their ipod customers into Apple software, gaming and hardware users.
I have no conclusion but i do think all 3 console makers, along with many other companies, are going to be surprised by competition which they didn't expect.
This is the reality of modern technology. The mobile is the most threatening example of multi purpose technology around and Apple know this all too well.
Look at whats happening to tvs, theyre getting built in hard drives and pvr's in addition to internet access. Look at mobile phones, internet, cameras, video, etc.
Look at all the latest downloadable everything products, cloud software, gaming, etc. Smaller laptops, your not going to need big memory if its all online for you.
All this stuff is a threat to somebody. MS along Sony or Nintendo are being threatened by this new wave of multi function everything.
Remember that Nokia is now the largest manufacturer of camera's in the world.
I believe the first sign of what is happening occurred, not when MS got into gaming but, when Apple decided to make phones. They crossed over into virgin (arguably bcoz of the lack of user fr iendly aps on high end mobiles) territory and have been slowly converting their ipod customers into Apple software, gaming and hardware users.
I have no conclusion but i do think all 3 console makers, along with many other companies, are going to be surprised by competition which they didn't expect.
1up
Its just a joke, sometimes I change the names of people I quote. Hence the Unreasonable tag! Sony was both reasonable and unreasonable.
There are many reasons for or against doing what they were doing, like losing full control over part of their platform. I think Microsoft was more protecting Windows from a potential disrupter gaining ground in the living room than the Direct X standard which is a much smaller part of the whole. The dreamcast had Microsofts software inside, which enabled them to offer online before anyone else and develop their games faster, hence part of the reason why they could develop so many games so quickly. PM sent.
Squilliam said:
I did it to myself as well, see?
