Heavy Metal music - new guard vs old guard

[highwaystar101]

mrstickball said:

disolitude said:

trunkswd said:
Group 1 wins it for me. When it comes to talent the other groups aren't as good, though I do like them. However when it comes to post 2000 there is very little good music but I do like Disturbed, Symphony X, and Linkin Park.

Thats the thing...a lot of these new bands could rape and destroy a lot of their influences when it comes to "talent". Like drummers for slipknot, Daath and chimaira are absolutely the best drummers in the business, no questions asked. When you see them live, you have no other choice that to admire in awe. Guitar players too...the slipknot guitarists could shred with the best of them. But the new bands are not about that "solo" thing. Its more about playing as a band...one sound... rather than have musical highlights per instrument. If you don't like the songwriting, I understand that. But talent is there...

I'll pretend you didn't mention linkin park :P

I think that one thing people forget about old metal is the fact that, of all the bands, were the most inventive.

I mean, how difficult do you think it was to coax a good 'metal' song out 35 years ago out of old equipment? And get something that is irrevocably 'metal'?

Thats why I think that, for the genre, Children of the Grave by Sabbath is the quientessential metal song for me:

 

Between the thrashy, gallopped open-C# notes, the drumming, and the lyrics, it's a fantastic song. Throw in the fact that it's 38 years old this year, and was one of the first that was heavily downtuned (something not emulated for decades), and it's far ahead of it's time.

I saw them perform children of the grave live in 2005. You really appreciate that song live, it is like hearing it fresh.