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Guiding Light on 29 April 2009
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Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Guiding Light said:
Linkzmax said:
I'm going to re-link this because it seems many missed it. http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/support/xbox360/manuals/xbox360specs.htm "# 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM "

It seems MikeB is now admitting it, though some are still claiming otherwise. There's really no point in arguing any further. People are either set in their view, or they'll look at the facts, of which there are plenty.

Actually, MikeB is right and wrong (this includes me as well).  The X360 drive IS 8x on DL-DVDs.  This is proven by the transfer rate to HDD from the Gamespot link.

The chart in the link below shows what the average transfer rate is for each multiple.

http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa4.htm

This, CLEARLY, lines up with 8x DVD speeds.

The wrong part of our thinking was that the AVERAGE transfer speed was lower than it is.  BD drive is still faster at certain sections of the disc, but the 8x DVD read speed gains this back over the remaining area of the disc.

 

In the end, X360 can only rely on the DVD drive, because all units don't have HDDs (hence the load times in games).  Meanwhile, the PS3 can stream from the BD drive AND the HDD to eliminate load times, in games, altogether.  Also, MUCH data transfer time is lost beyond 6.8GB of data in the name of ejecting and replacing a disc.

 

 

 

No he is wrong. Please don't bring other nonsense into this. I'm not discussing how long it takes to put a disc in the drive. The read speed is 12x for Dual Layer, I have explained this over and over with multiple sources.

If you are intent on wrongly believing it is 8x then so be it...Simply timing the install time on the Xbox 360 proves that it is 12x. Find a game that is 6.8GB in size once installed on the HD, time it, there you go. OPEN AND SHUT CASE!

I can't be bothered anymore, believe what you like. You basically trying to tell me the sun is green  this is such a stupid thread It's like banging my head against a brick wall.

 

I'll say it AGAIN, what 5th time now?

 

Hacked firmware is available in different speeds, 5x\8x\12x. Illegal ISOs are all dual layer (properly made iXtreme ones) iXtreme firmware is (or was, it isn't anymore because of ms detecting lower read speeds) in 5x\8x\12x.

I don't claim to know "everything" but I know my shit when it comes to hacked firmware. I have flashed my drive with 5x\8x\12x firmware.

Now if you don't want to listen to someone who has first hand actually tried out this stuff, then don't.

Carry on in la la land and believe what you want to belive.

My only goal was to put things straight.

edit, no disrespect :) but you need to open your eyes and take in things you don't want to hear.

edit - The gamespot article is clearly not scientific, they are retards over there and haven't taken into account the video partition location, dummy\padding data etc. If you are making judgements on ONE article from ONE website instead of lots of people, availablity of actual 12x firmware which is classed as the stock speed. You need your head testing.