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S.T.A.G.E. on 28 April 2009
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Mummelmann said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Reasonable said:
Question - not meant to flame but genuine query.

Why do some posters here feel Sony isn't naturally a games company and MS is? Nintendo is the only one of the three I would see as through and through a games company (it might not be, that would just be the general feel I have).

I just don't get some of the arguments and there seems to be a double standard of sorts in play in this thread.

How can people feel Sony will quit due to losses and the fact they aren't a games company while MS won't quit despite the fact that strictly speaking (i.e. total investment so far vs total return so far) MS may never had made a dollar of clear money yet out of their investment and seem to me to represent even less of an obvious games company that Sony?

If you're using such simple metrics as losses and company focus to judge things then both should be pulling out in fact and leaving it to Nintendo, Sega, etc. - the out and out games companies.


Just to be clear I don't see any of the current three going anywhere unless something truly catastrophic afflicts their business in the future.

The video games market is looking to end up massive (and it's already pretty big), there is lots of money to be made and both MS and Sony remain in good positions to do so for the foreseeable future: hardly grounds for bailing out IHMO.

 

 

Microsoft has been publishing games and first party titles way before Sony started failing at their craft and used the Videogame industry as a crutch to stand on.

 

What? This post shows that your (apparent) hatred towards a company has obscured history from your view. Sony used videogame market as a crutch? They made a massive gamble against established gaming superpowers Nintendo and Sega at the time, a huge, huge risk unlike any taken by other console makers in recent times (yes, MS took a chance as well but the market for their product was already there as proven by Nintendo and Sony).

If anything, it was MS who took up Nintendo's craft and failed (somewhat, at least compared to the ambitions they had) at it, last gen.

Go read some videogame history, you're either getting quite a few things backwards or you're being ignorant on purpose. How can you loathe a company like this? Unless they dumped toxic spills in your family's backyard and made you all sick or something, there really is no rational reason to hate a company (or their products for that matter). I am again struck by the comical thought of Sony fanboys "being worse" than "everyone else". Amazing, pure and simple. I suppose you should remove your avatar as well, he is a character from a franchise that is born and raised on the inferior Sony consoles.

 

 

Sony was getting their collective asses handed to them until they joined the videogame industry. The only sincere member of Sony was Kutaragi because he believed the gaming industry was profitable. Sony sales generational console  (based on their format of choice) translates directly into the sales outside of the videogame industr. Did you or did you not know this? Microsoft didn't fail at publishing games. They let go alot of susidiaries during the economic downfall, which also included one of their famed titles Microsoft Flight Simulator.

As for Tekken...it wasn't born and raised on Sony consoles, it was an arcade title before it hit the PSone. The console version of the game might have been exclusive to Sony consoles, but it is more an arcade game than anything. Take Tekken 6 for example, for it has been out for two years straight in the arcades. The loyalty of the Tekken franchise no longer belongs to Sony, for Namco wants profit. You don't have to be a Sony fanboy to love Tekken....you just have to love Tekken. I wont kiss Sony's ass about Tekken if they didn't make it...and they've made nothing but their systems.

Second of all, I don't hate Sony. I just hate when fanboys actually believe they are true gaming companies. Sony uses the gaming industry as a way to bolster format sales, and Microsoft is afraid of the console gaming taking profit away from the PC industry. The only true gaming company is Nintendo. I can accept the truth, even though I am PS360. If you can accept the truth, you wont be blinded. I love my PS3 and my 360, but I refuse to go through Microsoft or Sony if anything happens, because I don't respect them. I deal with the middlemen (Best Buy, PlayNTrade, Gamestop) and only purchase systems with the games I like. I have a detatched relationship with makers of the products I buy.