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fanboys are pulling numbers out is their only saving grace. sure vice city and liberty cities sold well. but u forgot to mention that those games been out for almost 3-4 years while chinatown wars been out over a month. and please stop using the large console base argument. ps2 has 140mill userbase and each game needs 0.72% of the users to buy a game to be a million seller but thats not the case. ps2 best selling game is san andreas with about 18 mill but wii already has wii fit beating that with about 1/3 of the userbase of ps2.