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S.T.A.G.E. on 24 April 2009
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Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
For all those who are talking about Blu Ray and HDTV's, HDTV's are more of a priority because it's being forced on us by government regulations or we have to have some clunky receiver put in our houses to give the digital signal to the tv. Digital conversion is now a reality in America. All of our main news stations are digital only. Blu Ray is not a priority. Sony might as well get the government to force Blu Ray on us too.

 

 

I think all the industries, from electronic manufacturers like Sony, to Holywood think HD tv's are a priority. Without HD tv's, there's no Bluray. What I'm confused is why there's a double standard against Bluray, where nobody wants to watch HD movies on the HD TV they just bought, while they only want to watch TV shows and play video games on it. What kind of logic is that?

 

 

HDTV's were never priority in this country. Government regulation is forcing the people to either get a reciever or buy an HDTV. The people have been responding to HDTV extemely slow, because we should've been converted a little while ago. The Obama administation has a shitload of people that they've had to give coupons to for converters, because they saw no need for a switch.

Blu Ray is not needed because DVD already exists. HD-DVD was beating Blu Ray, but even the people didn't want that format over normal DVD. Blu Ray is just a DVD that allows for more space. It's not worth paying $30 per movie when you can get a DVD for 4-20 dollars at best buy. Blu Ray still exists because shareholders will not profit, so they forced it upon us. Sony didn't allow the market to not care about Blu Ray....they forced it upon us.

*face palm* I'm not talking about government programs, but about private industries. Sony wants, whether its a SHARP or Samsung HD tv (preferably Bravia), HD tv's to be sold. If there are no HD tvs, there are no incentives to buy a BR player, and Blu ray disks. Please stay on topic, or ask me if I didn't get my point through to you clear enough.

I don't know if HD-Dvd was winning at one point (did it really?), but obviously Bluray beat HD-DVD due to the support it got from movie studios and their bigger share of the HD format market at the end of the war. You can make anything sound non-chalant with how you described Blu-ray... All HD Tvs are just TV's with more pixels. Obviously if people bought HD tvs, they desired to watch something in HD tv. I don't see why, they would buy the HD Tv only to watch HD  tv and play HD video games (both of which can be played on SD tvs anyway as well, just as useless as you said).

Like I said earlier in the thread (or perhaps another thread?), I believe that Bluray DOES have an issue with price. But like someone else said, so did DVDs. What happens when Bluray becomes 4-20 dollars, and DVD hit their minimum price? Will you honestly continue to watch movies in SD, and everything else in HD? Like I said again, we can use your argument for years to come, when Super HD (which is being developed by now by NHK (?) and BBC (?)) comes, and then the next set of definitions. Ultimately those are not "necessary". In fact, when was all our entertainment devices "necessary"?

As for your last rambling about how Sony is "forcing" Bluray upon us like it's a conspiracy. In the end, we have a choice, as there are still new DVDs being sold, so there goes any conspiracy between the movie industry and Sony. If you're talking joint businesses moves, and ADVERTISING "forcing", then you shouldn't live in a consumer nation such as America. Advertisement and marketing have made certain products absolutely golden like iPods. And there is nothing wrong with convincing people to buy your product, far from "forcing" them to.

It doesn't matter what Sony, Samsung (Which is my favorite brand) or even Sharp want for HDTV's. People wouldn't have responded as much if it was just private companies alone influencing the situation. The only way people would respond to accepting newer installments by private organizations, if they resist, is by being duped (IE: The PS3).

Yes, HD DVD was beating Blu Ray before the PS3 came out. Sony was moneyhatting Blockbuster, making deals to make Blu Ray exclusive. Blu Ray had a load of powerful backers from Sony, Toshiba, Samsung, Disney and more investing in Blu Ray. HD DVD only had a couple of companies backing them. Blu Ray's survival is all corporation politics. Standard DVD didn't even get this much resistance vs VHS.

Blu Ray wont become 4-20 dollars without beating or being equal to standard DVD. It costs too much to make them. Blu Ray was forced upon us. Ask youself the question of why no one responded to Blu Ray in the first place and how it came to be accepted. Sony used to videogame industry to dupe the people into accepting the format. It's like someone said in another post before. The PS3 was a "Trojan Horse" for the adoption of Blu Ray. Technically it was forced and this is no conspiracy theory.

The people should be able to control the market, but when you have companies like these who have the money to force their will, things happen. This brings us to where we are today.