Healthcare isn't a business, it's peoples lives

[vlad321]

Kasz216 said:

vlad321 said:

Kasz216 said:

vlad321 said:

Well, I see how government run insurance can get costly, however if the government was the one in charge of the health, people pay less per capita, and apparently the overall health is a lot better.

Also, over 40% of the households that are uninsured earn over 50k, and the current average is around 46k (give or take a few thusand, but definitely a few thusand under 50k from what I remember) for a family of 4.

 

Yeah.. which makes you wonder if it's really a cost issue... or a budgeting issue.

 

You are trying to use other countries as a basis without looking at the overall differences in countries.  Such an analysis is severly flawed.

 

 

Yes, some can choose that they don't want any insurance at all, very true. However, I doubt those people are in the majority, and even the bum on the street could tell you that being able to get teated when sick is the most important thing a person needs outside of food and shelter (in modern times at least). Either it's a cost issue, or an outight issue of stupidity. In which case I guess it's fine if they don't have insurance and die off, less stupid genes to run amok in society.

A bum on the street would be covered by Medicaid.

The problem is... with the old saying "They act like they're immortal."

Healthcare isn't a concern... until you need it.  Neither are things like car insurance and retirement funds.  Which is why the government forces you to put money in those things.

Such a system is good.  But it can't work in the US like it does in other countries.  There are faaar to many factors.

For example... just how our political system works.  Medicaid doesn't work... becaue partisian politics play into the governments "payment methods".  Groups that support the party in power get a good deal.  Ones who don't get screwed... etc.

If people just thought a little differently... most of these people would restructure how they live to pay for healthare.  The problem is people making 50,000 a year living check by check.   It shouldn't happen!

That... and possible removing he "wealth" clause in medicaid would take care of pretty much everything.  There being  a wealth clause in Medicaid and that's why some poor people don't get treatment.  If you can't afford healthcare because of your income, but own a house worth $60,000+... the government doesn't want to hear it basically.

 

Agreed, so tax them for their own good basically and make a proper healthcare system. I agree with the Wealth thing as well. The system is broken, but I doubt forcing people to have isurance (kinda like cars, but a lot worse) will do much.