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TheRealMafoo said:
highwaystar101 said:

I live in England, of course I've been brainwashed to an extent, we're world famous for it.

But you can't deny that they have given me A LOT of help with my education. I mean the evidence is tangible, I have an education, I've been to uni, I was effectively given a few years wages to help me out.

 

Life was made easier for you, but at what cost?

If you were made to work very hard for school, meaning you had to work full time and pay for it yourself… take out a loan... whatever, you still would have been able complete your education.

In the US, poor people go to Universities all the time. They just pay for it with loans, private grants, or working through school (how I did it).

With the system you are in, you got a few easier years, only to now pay for that education the rest of your life. If you follow in your father’s footsteps (making a 6 figure income), you will end up paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for that education. That’s money you could use to better your family, feed people with through charities, improve your standard of living, etc…

I never said capitalism isn’t hard, but what it does do, is reward you for your successes. Socialistic programs rewards complacency, by punishing those that succeed.

Look, I understand that and I like the capitalism system because of that. I just think that education benefits from being socialised, that's all. It's not like I want to deny peoples rights to be rewarded for their hard work, or have everyone earning the same despite what they do. I support a free market and so on, I support a capitalist economy. I'm just saying that there are one or two factors where I don't think capitalism works all that well. Healthcare and education are two of them. To me it makes as much sense as privatising the police force or the fire brigade.

Also it doesn't reward complacency in these closed cases where the greater good is helping those in need of help. If it wasn't for medicaid I would imagine half of Americans would be in dire need of healthcare, but can't afford suitable insurance, etc...