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FaRmLaNd said:

Yep you can be too nice. Several of my mates have been the "nice" guys before and the few relationships they got when they functioned in that capacity were short lived and a waste of time.

Heck I was the "nice" guy once. Same result. I don't even know why I was the nice guy during that time in my life as generally I'm a tool in real life lol.

There's another reason why nice guys get own3d - the women are hella shallow. They find the rockstars, thugs to be a challenge and not interested in small talk. I have seen dudes talk a woman's head off. Me? It's a time and place for everything. I have no fear talking to any woman. But them being shallow - that happens a lot. A nice guy's interests may very well overshadow her going out with friends all the time.