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axumblade said:
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nitekrawler1285 said:
Maybe his comment is a sentiment towards frustration that the PS3 does get great games even though it has the least marketshare and in many cases is more expensive to develop for.

 

 Apart MGS4 what great exclusive games did PS3 get or will have in the near future???

Third party

US/EU = Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Valkyria Chronicles, inFamous,

Japan = Yakuza 3, White Knight Chronicles, Demon's Souls, Warriors Orochi Z

 

Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet and InFamous are first party. WKC and Demon's Souls are also published by Sony.

Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3 and Warriors Orochi didnt even reach the 500k mark. 

You said "great exclusive games" didn't say million sellers.

Media Molecule and Insomniac aren't owned by Sony. Nice try. Next time do research.

Also, Yakuza 3 and Warriors Orochi have yet to have a western release.

 

First party game = game PUBLISHED by Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo not developed. Next time do research.

How much did Yakuza 2 and Warriors Orochi (PS2) in the West? Thanks!

 

Granted Wikipedia isn't normally a source I'd go to but I'm too lazy to bother wasting any extra time on an erratic person trying to rejustify themselves despite being wrong.

"In the video game industry, a first-party developer is a developer that is part of a company that actually manufactures a video game console. First-party developers may either use the name of the company itself, like Nintendo; have a specific division name like Sony's Polyphony Digital; or have formerly been an independent studio before being acquired by the console manufacturer, such as Rare or Naughty Dog."

Hmm....That's weird. The console manufacturer have to have them acquired? Awkward.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-party_developer

It's got Insomniac listed there....under "Independant developers" along with the likes of Valve and Id Software. So why don't you just admit you were wrong and I can go and criticize you in another thread?

mmkay? thanks much.

LOL Wikipedia, what a reliable source... Is it you who wrote this article?

BTW here is what they have to say about Insomniac that you didnt post here :

A third-party developer is a developer not directly tied to the primary product that a consumer is using, although some, such as Insomniac Games, may have exclusive publishing agreements or other business relationships with a particular manufacturer while maintaining independence. The primary product may be hardware or software.

Hmmmm interesting...so this exclusive publishing agreement forbid them to release LBP on a rival console....sounds more like a second party publisher to me which also proves my point that this is not a third party developer. Oh and yes they didnt list Insomniac under Third party developer....

Whatever, if you think LBP or Resistance 2 are not first (or second, which of course don't change anything to my point) party titles...well you're the only one on this site to believe this. Also you're welcome to criticize me in other threads if you are able to prove me wrong.

 

p.s you didnt say anything about Yakuza 2 and Warriors Orochi sales in the West...

Insomniac have said on record that they can make games for other systems if they want to but they prefer working for Sony. It's not based on exclusive agreements or not, it's based on their preference. 

They could count as second party developers if they do have an agreement but that all depends on if they actually have exclusive agreements. Hense why I posted that Sony were listed as an "Independant developer." Basically pointing out that they aren't owned by Sony, therefore, it's not considered first party, which by the way, I said in the statement before your statement so I really am not quite sure wtf you're trying to prove with that.

Also, again, I never said that those games were going to be million sellers. Much like your beloved wii with its Okami/Zack&Wiki/deBlob/Madworld/NoMoreHeroes that will never hit a million. I was merely saying that great games are on the system. I don't understand what you aren't understanding.

If you want to believe that Insomniac and Media Molecule are third party developer and that they could release LBP or Resistance on X360 or Wii have fun! You must be the only one here to believe that.

Okami did better on Wii than its PS2 counterpart. As for Zack & Wiki, nobody thought it will reach million. deBlob could be really near the million mark before the end of this year like Madworld. Finally No More Heroes will have a sequel so I guess Ubisoft is satisfied with its sales.  

 Whatever I just said there is a lot more big 3rd party exclusives on Wii than any other system and that's a fact.