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Zuzic on 11 April 2009
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greenmedic88 said:
Torillian said:
Wow, can you beat in your point any harder? Anyway I'd like to do a little experiment. I would like a single Nintendo fan to admit to a flop on the Wii. Any game, don't really care what, just admit that one game probably lost money. It seems we have this idea that HD games need a minimum of 500k sales to make a profit, but Wii games can be made off of 5 dollars and a Unicorn fart (a value of probably $3.68)

I'll even start you out. Lair and Haze flopped immensely hard and probably lost their respective companies large sums of money.

Now your turn, and it doesn't have to be a huge flop like the two I listed, just anything that flopped at all.

I won't hold my breath on this one. The notion that any Wii game can be made for next to nothing (unicorn farts are still worth more than $3.68 IMO) and are automatically profitable regardless of sales numbers, won't stop in the minds of the hardcore Nintendo fans.

But, there shouldn't be any collossal commercial flops on the Wii, simply because no developers have been putting huge budgets into their games other than Nintendo's own. Even the concerted and lengthy effort to develop a high end Wii game engine by High Voltage will undoubtedly be written off as another bargain budget example when it fails to sell a million copies in one month despite the protracted PR hype from HV and its following fanbase.

But then half of the allure of developing for the Wii has much to do with the lower overall associated costs. You don't spend high end budgets to develop games on the Wii unless you are doing something extremely wrong as a developer.

Oh and Lair and Haze didn't just lose their developers large sums of money; both games ruined their respective companies much like Spirits Within ruined Square.

 

Actually Lair was not a commercial fail as everyone seems. It's budget was only 10 million and actually broke even. Also haze surely wasn't a flop, selling 0.75 million, more then most games make, and I don't know why people flip out over review scores. Haze received a 5.5, horrible right? Since when? It's average, since 5/10 would be absolute average, anything below that would be below average then horrible. However it seems we got lost on the way, movie reviews still got it right though. If a game gets anywhere 40 and over it's watchable and good to the majority. Haze was playable, not the best game of course and had bugs, but it was not a failure. Lair is a good game, after the analog patch. That was the ONLY thing that kept it back. Think about it. It had a good story, gorgeous graphics for the time, with hundreds being animated, though the controls held it down. Analog patch made controls good, not great, but with them it deserves between a 7.5 and 8.5, anyone would agree with that.