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Ishy said:
No, nintendo can never get too much credit for single-handedly lifting the video game market out of the pit it had put itself in... without them nobody would be gaming today...

That's exactly the thing people say that bothers me, how can anyone claim that when PC gaming has *always* been around since the early 80s?  And it has always been strong and with basically no Japanese influence.  How can anyone claim that PC games simply would have ceased to exist when many computer game companies were making profits?