Rise of atheism: 100,000 Brits seek 'de-baptism'

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senseinobaka said:

SciFiBoy said:
im puzzeled, if christians claim that EVERYTHING happens for a reason, then surely that includes bad things people do as well?

either you believe there is a reason for everything or you believe there is no reason for anything, you cant sit on the fence here, either you think theres a reason or you dont, so which is it?

if everything happens for a reason, then hitler WAS by defenition doing gods will, im sorry but you cant say everything then say hitler isnt part of that, its bs

if like me you think things happen, but without divine reason, then why do you need religion?

Please dont generalize. Some Christian groups don’t subscribe to the notion of predestination or predetermination by God.

Personally, I reject the idea. If my faith in God was not from my own free-will but was instead predetermined long before my birth then my faith would be completely superfluous.

Also, as you mention, a person believing in predetermination by God would also be claiming that God caused all evil actions. But a Christian that believes in free-will would bevlieve that God cannot cause evil and would instead place blame for evil happenings on free-will

I believe that SciFiBoy was assuming that God must be totally omniscient.