Rise of atheism: 100,000 Brits seek 'de-baptism'

[vlad321]

appolose said:

Final-Fan said:

appolose said:
For your last line; that would be a correct assessment if your position is true. If mine is true (that judgements made on sensory data are not necessary and are avoidable), then that has massive ramifications

Didn't follow the whole exchange; no time (as detailed above) -- but WHAT?!

You've so far argued AFAIK that sensory data might not be true because the universe might be a lie; this is not amenable to any sort of measurable test for obvious reasons.  In fact, how can we test ANYTHING if our senses are totally unreliable?

 

 I'll answer this part first;  I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, but for you last sentence I'll say, yes, we can't test anything with our senses (that is, our interpretation of our sense data) unless we assume they're true.

For your other post (hopefully, without being redundant in light of your other post); What I mean to say is that empiricism is on equal footing as, say, flipping a coin as a method of truth, because both are equally unfounded as can be. 

@scifiboy

There are a lot of... uniformed Christians, I'll grant you that.

 

But then comparing empiricism to faith, at least empiricism has SOMETHING. Faith hasn't even showed us what can be a lie or what couldn't be. It's a figment of people's imagination.