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appolose said:
Final-Fan said:
appolose said:
Final-Fan said:
Sanity is defined by the majority. 

@ appolose:  The only way your argument works is to question all of existence outside of good ole cogito ergo sum, which is fun but pointless.  Trusting in the existence of the apparent universe isn't "faith" but "life".
Why is that?

Because it's so basic.  In the same way, I wouldn't say that I beat my heart; my heart just beats.  Every single thinking thing in the universe operates on the assumption that the universe exists at a level that I think is not equivalent to religious "faith".

And how do you know that?  By your senses?  :p

It's not basic, nor is it necessary, and even it were both of these things, it would not make it true (at all).  For instance, you could decide that flipping a coin can determine truth (while operating under the assumption that there is a coin and you can tell which side it lands on).  Which, as a method of truth, is no less founded as empiricism (this sentence was copied from above).  You don't even have to do anything

Well, I think it's kind of a yes/no idea that the whole universe might not really exist and all your senses are a lie.  Not really any middle ground.  So yes, in the apparent universe that seems to be true. 

I'm not sure I understand the rest of your objection and I have to leave for work, sorry.  Either you can expand, or I'll try again later, but I might still require clarification.  (But my next reply might make it unnecessary to respond to this.)



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