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mmnin said:
Louie said:
mmnin said:

Oh and 1+1=0 when dealing with the group Z = {0,1} Math actually has all kinds of relative cases where our standard "logic" is no longer valid. Certainly most of what we use is still based somewhere on established principles but that does not have to be the case either.

 

sorry.  had to say it. lol.  And if you notice standard logic here fits very well with the discription that I gave earlier.

 

Err no Then you are talking about Z + Z = 0 in which case z = 0 that's all

If z = 1 then Z + Z = 2. Still the same.

You're only using a group Z = (0,1) for calculations when you don't know what z is. But we're talking about a variable here which still follows the logic of basic math

Oh and as for this.  in the group Z={0,1}  Then when you have 1, then you are at 1.  If you add 1 to it, then you cycle back to 0.  2 is not in the group and this group is closed under addition modulo 2.  It's Abstract Algebra.

 

 

Well I misread your post then. Sorry for that. My point is still valid, though. But I'm tired of arguing right now.

I just think it's funny that you try to explain those things with so much passion