WessleWoggle said:
You don't have to believe in fate or destiny, it simply is so. You thinking you have a choice is simply an illusion caused by your logic determing that you think you have a choice , based on the fact that it seems to be the most logical answer to you, because you're concious and can feel like you're choosing things. You may feel like you're choosing to do something, but that's because you have selected it to be to most suitable world view. Everything is deterministic. I may be choosing to smoke, but it was written in the starts. Note me saying it was written in the stars is figurative, I don't believe in astrology. There's no such thing as choice. I'm not even choosing to write this. My brain is determining to, even though I do give myself the illusion of choice by doing this, and I could give myself an alternate illusion of choice by determining to do something else, like not post this. But I feel the need to post this because from a logical standpoint we do not have choice. Only from delusions can we somehow think we have any choice in anything. For example, a man is pointing a gun at you, he says he's going to shoot. You can choose to move and not be shot, or stay and be shot. The obvious choice is to move. Why is it obvious? Because your brain has determined that, either conciously through logic, or subconciously through survival instinct. What if someone chooses not to move? Their concious logic overcame their survival instinct, they did not make the 'choice' to die, even though they thought they did. Something - a cause - effected their decision to move, some influence that they encountered. There is no way to escape the fact that everything is predetermined. Everything is the result of cause and effect, fate. Believe it or not, the fact that you don't believe it is simply more proof of cause and effect... Cause: Conciousness, awareness Effect: You think you have a choice and deny that everything is deterministic
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Actually you're wrong. The universe isn't pre-determined, it is a probability wave/function. That is, you can only give a possibility percentage that a given event will happen, not an absolute answer. This is due to Heisenburg's (spelling?) Uncertainty Principle, which isn't just a limitation because of the apparatus used to measure the experiment. The Uncertainty Principle is 'built in' to the 'fabric' of space-time.
A good example is Nuclear Decay. It is completely random. You can only give a probability percentage for when a nucleus will decay. It has no cause.
