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mmnin said:
Louie said:
mmnin said:
tombi123 said:
mmnin said:

@ Tyrannical


Actually, thinking back on it. A lot of educated people do use that argument, though they may not be educated in what they need to be in order to understand any weaknesses it might have. Typically someone thought it was witty and used it in their presence or a fellow skeptic passed along the thought and since they couldn't disprove it on the fly, they decided to use it. Then considering that most Christians, lower income protestants which make up the majority, are generally not of the highest education and probably would not be able to combat the phrase either, they then would think that it was a perfect way to make their point quickly. Usually I see these people, as Tombi seems to have done, throwing the statement to the world, even if it is just to one person, as if to rid it of all deities.

 

Bolded: But aren't I asking God a question? Therefore I'm assuming he exists... (for the purpose of the thread). If he didn't exist I wouldn't be able to ask him a question (well I could but I wouldn't get an answer

Edit: I don't believe the statement rids the world of all deities. Just all powerful ones. Even if he doesn't have to obey the laws of physics, he can't contradict logic.

:p 

But the thing is He wouldn't contradict logic.  Just our logic which may be wrong in the first place.  There have been many upon many of theories, logical progressions, and studies that have been proven wrong after centuries of growth.  That is because we are always learning and expanding our understandings of the universe.  Of course, at each moment in our past, the best minds of the time thought that they were definitely right, even if they were later proven wrong.  So it would make sense that you would say here that what you are saying is definite logic regardless of if it actually is.  People do not like to be wrong and will stand by their statements sometimes long after they no longer agree with them.

 

Oh hell... never ever has our logic been wrong. Otherwise we would've never survived during the course of evolution. Never. There have been theories that have been proven wrong but they've been proven wrong by logic.

You are really taking the way of the least opposition here, don't you?

 

Logic is a relative term based on how much knowledge, understanding, and exposure you have at the time.  It is what makes sense in the universe that you have made for yourself and your mind.  Certainly not all thoughts that we have found to be true since our race began are false, but they have never all been true.

 

 

Oh my... no it isn't. The theories people had in the past just weren't logical. They were justified by gods, spirits, etc. They did the same you are doing now: Just taking god to fill the illogical gaps.