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Kasz216 on 24 March 2009
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The Anarchyz said:
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Japan doesn't accept the 360 because it's American, PS3 is not selling like it should because PS3 focused a lot on Western-oriented games and abandoned J-oriented games for too long (of course MS had something to do with it but it's Sony's fault too), and let's remember that the Japanese flagship Playstation titles are not out yet (Final Fantasy XIII and Gran Turismo 5), never in the history of Playstation those titles took so long in being released... And of course, the main element of all: THE PRICE...


So it's your opinion that Japan is filled with Xenophobes?

They won't buy a system with what you presume they want simply because the manufactuerer isn't Japanese

 

We already discussed the Xbox brand issue in Japan in a lot of topics, it's not that they're xenophobes, if they were the iPod touch, Nokia cellphones, Dell computers, Windows and another brands wouldn't survived there... The thing is, Microsoft is doing direct competition to Sony with the Xbox brand, i mean, the whole reason they entered in the console business is because they were afraid that the Playstation took the living room and became a threat to MS... So we have two brands, the Playstation brand and the Xbox brand, the American one is trying to take the Japanese one down, who do you think the Japanese will have more loyalty???...

The one that gives them the product they want.

That's the main rule of the consumer.

All those things you mentioned do direct compete with japanese companies.

Like i said, we discussed the Japan issue with consoles in a lot of threads, and we came to the same conclusion about the Xbox brand being American...

And about the other brands, i said "survived", not "beat down the competition" because i don't have the sales of them vs the competition (and i might add, Windows doesn't have J-competitors and the other brands are not having a war like the Xbox is having with the Playstation)...

But if you like to give a better explanation of why the Xbox brand is not that popular in Japan despite having a JRPG with part of the Chrono Trigger Dream Team, a JRPG with part of the Final Fantasy original team, a Tales JRPG and two Tri-Ace JRPGs (one of them a popular established franchise), be my guest...

Sure.  Jrpgs largely don't matter.

JRPGS are mostly niche... even in Japan.

No RPG not named DQ, Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts have sold anywhere near dominate numbers even in the PS2 era.

The best selling non DQ, FF or KH RPG on the PS2 being Tales of the abyss at 570,000.

Check it

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=&console=PS2&region=Japan&developer=&publisher=&genre=RPG&keyword=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Sales

 

The numbers really aren't there to suggest that a "Huge shift" would occur.  Maybe a half million extra people at most could be added to the PS3's ranks and that's with the rosiest possible outcome... and also just about the least likely.


The best selling JRPG on the PS2 in America not of those brands?  Well that ones interesting.  Star Ocean 3.  at 740,000.   After that it's worse then Japan however it's hard to argue that it isn't in their best interest to expand into the west.  Espiecally if they're getting paid to do it as many Sony fanboys like to surmise.

 

Why isn't the 360 popular?  Because the games that do sell amazingly in Japan are still on the PS3.  Many are exclusives.

Gran Turismo, Everybody Loves Golf, Yakuza and Metal Gear Solid.

Combined with games like Winning 11.  These are the franchises that matter... along with Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and Kingdom Hearts.


The rest are largely nonfactors.

Why then the huge drop in PS3 sales then?  You say.  Simple.  Even those games aren't as big a factor as you think. The main factor is the system it's self and it's perceived value.  Nintendo offering new expierences brought both new gamers and old gamers who have been playing a lot of the same games over again together with new expiences.