Soriku said:
Rei said:
Soriku said:
Rei said:
Soriku said:
Rei said:
Would it be worth it to make SO4 a simultenous worldwide multiplatform release? I dont think so. The problem is not the platform, but the genre and the decreasing interest in it amongst the western public.
Let's assume that 360 jRPGs arent selling. But where are the big jRPG sellers on the Wii and PS3? Oh, let me guess - "Tales of Symphonia 2 is a lame spinoff which wasnt advertised" and "VC is a niche SRPG and Sega didnt ship enough copies". Wake me up once PS3 and Wii big selling jRPGs will come out. Untill then, I assume that jRPG genre as a whole in a decline and (outside of FF-KH-DQ trio) only sells well on handhelds.
P.S I hope somebody has already prepared excuses as to why Tales of Gracia and WKC didnt sell well in the West.
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ToS2 is a "lame spinoff" yet outsold ToV, the next main game in the Tales series. And SO4 may not even outsell it in Japan (if it does it'll only be by a few k)
And DQS still is the second best selling JRPG this gen. It sold 500k in Japan alone, and 210k more in US/EU. Big names CAN sell on the Wii. As for VC (and DotNW, but it was released in EU while DotNW isn't yet), it outsold ToV and is a SRPG. Plus, if Tales of Graces is being made by Team Destiny (as it should be) expected BIG sales in Japan, the lowest selling game by Team Destiny in Japan is 600 some k IIRC.
So...yeah.
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Why are you bringing in Japan when I was clearly talking about the West?
And what lame excuses you have got there. Selling more than ToV is now considered a success? It's not about selling more than 360 jRPGs (I said - let's assume 360 cant sell jRPGs) it's about just selling well in the west. And neither PS3 or Wii jRPG has done that so far and outside of the trio I mentioned neither will.
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Yet they have done better than the 360. Which is good. You're defending 360 JRPG sales, I'm saying JRPGs have sold better on the Wii and PS3 in comparison.
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I am not defending anything. I am saying that SO4 perfomance in NA has nothing to do with it being on 360, but ahs a lot to do with it being a traditional SO3-type jRPG. Selling more than 360 jRPGs is not a success. Valkyria Chronicles has sold terrible in the West, ToS 2 has sold terrible in the West. So will other PS3 and Wii jRPGs.
You people put so much blame on 360 that you dont even notice it that the real reason is not the platform.
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What does being a SO3-type JRPG have to do with anything? SO3 sold well on the PS2, so what's the difference now?
Selling more than 360 JRPGs means devs would look more at the Wii and PS3 before the 360 when making RPGs. Also, the Wii has the low dev cost advantage.
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"What's the differense now?" - I really have to answer this? The console generation has changed dude, trends have changed. We didnt play Wii sports and had a ton of first person shooters last gen. Yet we do now as people now prefer this kind of games. And dont be delusional - the highest selling console jRPG this gen is a 360 exclusive. And The Last Remnant, a new IP has outsold Tales of Symphonia 2 on the Wii despite the huge differense in install base in all regions.
It is clear that neither current gen console is capable of selling jRPGs well outside of Japan. Yet you are so concentrated on 360 that you dont notice this.
