Famitsu sales number are in!

[sharky]

choirsoftheeye said:

sharky said:

Christopher_G2 said:
I'm not sure what's going on with the DSL right now. It should have got a boost. Anyway I see the PSP maybe taking one more week on top before sliding back down. As far as software I'm not surprised at all Pokemon beat Final Fantasy CC. The gap will increase ever more down the road as Pokemon will certainly have superior legs.

Yay PSP over DS!!! I can only hope this starts a trend. When was the last time PSP topped DS? Must have been a good two years ago meaning 100 weeks or so?

 

As to what's "going on" with DS..maybe it's just finally saturating the market as it approaches PS2 lifetime sales?

 

That is why I always expected PSP to defeat DS in the end. PSP has ten years to overcome DS. Ten long years, because that is the handheld life cycle, no five years like the consoles. When PSP is 99 bucks and looks so much better graphically than DS in the coming years..DS is going to get pounded.

Unless of course Nintendo introduces a DS successor soon..the problem is Nintendo is now dependant on gimmicks, and they're running out of tricks. After a touch screen and motion control on Wii, they have no other gimmick to try. And they cant compete on power, because it would be too expensive for them.

Also, I believe last week Famitsu Wii sales were 38,000 but media create sales (which for whatever reason, seem to be the one I go with as the final word) were like 29,000. If we see a similar drop for MC numbers this week, Wii could be UNDER TWENTY THOUSAND. Amazing. I dont expect that though, I expect MC to be around 25k.

Nintendo is definitly seeing sales take a huge tumble in Japan and it will start affecting their shipment #'s negatively soon, unless the USA can continue to pick up the slack. Wii is probably going to sell like140,000 for the whole month in Japan.

 

10 years? Not on your life. The only ten year handheld was the Gameboy - which was an anomaly. I also love how things like a touch screen or motion control are gimmicks, but the DPad and Analog Sticks (both things that Nintendo introduced to home consoles) are real control methods. Just because something is new and different doesn't mean that it's a gimmick. The claim about not being able to compete on power is utterly ludicrous, unless you mean it would make the consoles more expensive than the price point that Nintendo wants to meet. Nintendo has more money and deeper pockets than you'd think - as they always have monster software sales and don't sell their consoles for less than it costs to make them.

LOL, the gameboy was pretty much the only previous handheld (that succeeded).

So you say touch/motion are not gimmicks..so what do you think Nintendo will do with DS2?

I dont see anything they can do. No more gimmicks.

 

Competing on power would be pointless. The whole entire point of Wii and DS is to not compete on power. Nintendo is a small company unlike MS and Sony and they cannot afford to bleed billions of dollars in an attempt to establish high priced technologically advanced hardware. Nintendo even refused to lose money on hardware as far back as the Gamecube. So, if they're going to refuse to lose money on hardware, they're not going to compete in the power stakes with Sony and MS, period. Besides, people have already rejected a traditional Nintendo console (Gamecube).

 

Here's my point regarding PSP..it's even tougher and more expensive to pack power into a handheld..because of heat, size, and the fact you pay for a expensive quality screen. However PSP is already sold millions and is in the cost reduction process. Far down that curve.

 

If Nintendo set out to introduce a powerful handheld, it wouldn't be markedly more powerful than PSP, because PSP is still close to handheld state of the art. But what it WOULD be is a lot more expensive. So you'd have something like a 249 DS2 competing against a $99 PSP at that time, and the DS2 might look 10% better, but not enough to matter.

 

I'm really interested in what Nintendo does after DS, because as far as I'm concerned they've backed themselves into a corner. Same thing with Wii. They sell on a gimmick and there are no more gimmicks on the horizon. But they cannot go back to a "traditional" console either because it's just too expensive and people have proven they dont want that from Nintendo.

 

The technological cutting edge gets more expensive with every generation. To compete with a hypothetical Xbox720 is going to require MASSIVE engineering and technological expenses. More than it would have taken to compete with Xbox 360 or PS3. Just as 360 was more expensive than Xbox, and PS3 more than PS2. That is why Nintendo cant play in that poker game anymore..