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Louie on 14 March 2009
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That Guy said:
WessleWoggle said:

Sorry, that's what I define faith as. I know there's other definitions for faith, like if you have faith you're going to win a fight because you're physically stronger, then it's faith based on evidence, but the word faith in this context can easily be replaced with the word idea or thought.

Faith, in my definition, is blind.

Faith, in your definition is synonymous with idea.

I have faith that the presedent will get us out of this recession.

I have the idea that the president will get us out of this recession.

 

 

 

I'm not going to engage in a definition war with you but if you believe an idea or cause based on my definition of faith, it is definitely not blind. And there are many out there who believe based on my definition; they would not be blind or ignorant either.

As far as flipping the card, yes that is bad argument and a logical fallacy, since it really just begs the question;

A. God wrote the Bible

B. We know this is true because the Bible say so

The burden of proof always falls upon the positive statement. I can make the same argument on the existence of green men on mars and simply state "PROVE TO ME THAT GREEN MEN ON MARS DO NOT EXIST! LOL" No, the burden falls on me to provide positive evidence of green men; not to show the lack of negative evidence; if that makes sense or not.

 

The only thing I really dislike about this topic is that you can basically have arguments for days and it's never going to end anyways.

Personally I really like a lot of religious people but I think religion itself (some religions at least) has lost its use.

I'm especially talking about catholics here, the pope and the Vatican to be precise.

I don't understand how you can teach people in Africa to stop using Condoms for example. If your wife or husband if HIV positive you'll get infected anyways so saying "just have sex when you are married" doesn't help, really. It just makes the situation worse in South Africa.

Also what happened to that 9 year old brazilian child is just terrible. She was pregnant with twins and they had to make an abortion because the twins and her would've died otherwise. The church then banned her but her father in law who abused her wasn't because he didn't violate the rights of god.

And what the pope did with Williamson... well yeah. Williamson is a Nazi that's it. You shouldn't try to get Nazi's back into your church really. And he doesn't respect the jewish religion either.