I figured out why 3rd parties hesitate to put their best teams on Wii games

[Pristine20]

RolStoppable said:

Pristine20 said:
Another thing to note: regardless of profit or userbase, developers and publishers are free entities entitled to doing whatever they want. What if they're losing money? It's not your money. Wii fans who think that everyone should be forced to develop for nintendo really need to slow down. people have different motives for developing games and it's not about money for everyone. I'd voucher that for most devs, their salary is fixed regardless of the game's sales anyway so what if they're more in pursuit of a fanbase and critical acclaim from those who care enough to give it to them? What's it to you?

Last gen when the ps2 was running away with 70% marketshare, some devs like bethesda and lucas arts still released exclusive xbox games. Devs like to work with platforms they like and not everyone is miyamoto who can make games for others while having a true passion in music. Frankly, if I was a developer, I couldn't see myself being able to make a game I don't even have an interest in. It's just not possible for me.

That said, the whining about 3rd party offerings needs to slow down. Show love to the 3rd parties who actually made an effort on the wii by buying their games instead of buying only nintendo's games and claiming 3rd parties suck.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are constantly losing money on your games, isn't there a risk that one day you'll lose your job?

The example of the Xbox games isn't exactly a good one, because the console had a PC architecture and/or Microsoft was pushing to get those games and many others on their platform. It's not like these developers really needed or wanted to make Xbox games, they would have been fine by making a PC only game.

The problem with this last statement of yours is that Wii owners already bought millions of good third party games (in nearly all cases these good games should have made money) and they want to buy more, but third parties hesitate to give it to them. So the ones who are generating the problem are the third parties and not the buying habits of the Wii audience.

 If the devs who were losing money on ps360 moved to wii, there's a high chance that they'll lose money as well because they'll probably make a game you won't buy probably because it sucks. i think most are trying to find a common ground to create a game where both themselves and the consumers want. there's a reason some ps360 games have days you can play online with the developers. This makes it obvious that the devs themselves love playing the game.

As for the xbox one, the xbox architecture makes for a good excuse even with a 15% marketshare. So why did sega release Panzer Dragoon exclusive to xbox? Why did Tecmo's Team Ninja decide to become xbox exclusive? Didn't Itagaki say he liked the platform or something along those lines. Keep in mind that these are Japanese devs where it was even surprising that they knew the xbox existed considering it's performance in their country.

You say wii owners have bought the "good" 3rd party games however many of the so called good games are languishing in mediocre sales whereas many so-called"shovlware" have done well. I remnember capcom complaining about sales on the wii as well. This idea is not exclusive to HD consoles. To understand the disparity I'm talking about, make a chart of th wii's best selling games, the difference in sales is too great to be attributed to "3rd partys suck", "nintendo makes the best games" and the other terms people throw around. In reality, most wii owners simply buy only nintendo's games and my household is no different. With the exception of Trauma Center, all the wii games my 10 year old brother has "gotten" are from nintendo and he's looking forward to the next mario, zelda, pokemon, etc like most wii owners not the next 3rd party game on the horizon and if I'm not mistaken Benga made a thread showing that 3rd party wii exclusives for 2009 are actually more than the PS360 combined yet most wii owners are blind to these. Your complaints make it obvious that even you probably didn't even realize this.

As for the  term "nintendo's games sell on nintendo's consoles", I think there's a lot of truth in that statement although I don't know why that is. For camparison, I think a game like Mario 64 would probably have sold much less on PS1 than N64 and it would feel more like equal ground with other third party games on a different console not a constant breakaway hit as it is on ninty's systems. This is just a feeling of mine though so take it with a grain of salt.