RolStoppable said:
Louie said:
Demotruk said:
Hehe, this debate is starting to sound like a religious one with all the arguing over the meaning of words used by a particular person...
But I'll join it nonetheless. I think upstreaming means simply this: having higher demands on the product. The users of Wii Sports, or to take things away from gaming, an early Blackberry, did not have alot of demands on the product apart from needing to deliver on the values you're looking for: pick up and play gameplay, intuitive controls, social fun for Wii Sports, and e-mailing from anywhere with a good interface for the blackberry. The blackberry went upmarket as it added more features(without ever taking away from the most important one) and generally improved the product. It's users went upstream as this happened, and now would not buy the basic blackberry of yesteryear. Mario Kart Wii is upmarket from Wii Sports, and provides all the same values, but has more content and is a deeper experience. They will eventually want games that are deeper and more content full than Mario Kart, but they will have to generally retain the values that Mario Kart Wii and Wii Sports bring to the table. |
Well, that should happen eventually but there is a certain point where you can't move upstream anymore. Basically I think Malstrom meant moving upstreams = getting more "hardcore" as he listed different genres. And I doubt that will happen. My girlfriend will never be interested in more competitive games for example so moving upstream won't cause people to buy "hardcore games". But if I remember correctly that's exactly what malstrom said: "You'll see a flood of hardcore games on the Wii!" We will, yes. But not because of "social gamers" - we'll see it because the Wii has a reasonable number of "core" gamers on board.
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But Louie, what if the games now deemed as "casual" form the new "hardcore", just like the "casual" fighting, racing and sports games of the 32-bit era formed today's "hardcore"? Pre-PlayStation platformers and shoot'em ups were "hardcore" while today those games are called "casual".
If those sentences all make some sense (and I hope they make perfect sense), then Malstrom will be correct. Tada!
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Uhh.. no :-p Those people would still like the same genres so they still won't buy today's "hardcore" games. And that's what Malstrom implied. I don't think his solution is wrong (= the Wii will get more hardcore games) but I think his explanation is wrong (I think today's "casuals" won't get interested in today's "core" games but the mass market appeal of the Wii will automatically get people interested who are naturally the "hardcore" type of gamer - the competitive gamer. That's my second example 
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