A lot of good posts, and good replies, in this thread.
(One particular thing: mrstickball initially seemed to be taking some pretty extreme views, and although he still seems to have extraordinary personal beliefs (engaged isn't close enough?) he seems to have staked out a position that's actually quite reasonable, which I wish more pro-abstinence people had.
Tag (courtesy of fkusumot): "Please feel free -- nay, I encourage you -- to offer rebuttal."
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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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The old smileys: 
; - ) : - ) : - ( : - P : - D : - # ( c ) ( k ) ( y ) If anyone knows the shortcut for 
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I have the most epic death scene ever in VGChartz Mafia. Thanks WordsofWisdom!
