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Forza will sell well in Europe, that is for sure. The install base will be like 9.8 million when Forza2 was released. Now it is likely to be around 35-38 million. So I think a 3-4 million is possible without bundles.

 

GT5 we don't know when it will be released, if they manage to release it this xmas, sales will be like 9-10 million (with bundles)



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