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jetrii said:
Final-Fan said:
But ... no, that's not what I thought you meant.  If some people choose to use the PS3 Cell solution due to its cheaper price, and feel that that's a fair tradeoff even for certain big, important projects, can you really call it "outdated"?  That's what I'm saying. 

The B-52 bomber has been in use by the USAF since 1955.  They keep extending its service because it's so goddamned useful.  The latest supposed expiration date is 2040.  Its technology is certainly not comparable to the B-1, but it hasn't been replaced by its superior successor.  Is it "outdated"? 

"That is why it can complete in the marketplace, because it's not outdated compared to other chips, however, it is outdated in its class."

I guess I could be wrong here, but isn't it competing in the same arena as the Cell supercomputers?  Please correct me if that's not the case.
Of course it is. If someone wants to use a 2Ghz Core Solo solution due to its cheaper price, and feel that it's a fair tradeoff even for certain big, important projects, can you really call it "outdated?" Yes, of course you can. It is definetely outdated, there are just people that feel like they can use it for something useful.  Something outdated can still be useful.

We can go back and forth on this all night. What I consider to be outdated isn't what you consider to be outdated. Lets just agree to disagree.

Btw, that above example is true, I use a few Core Solo machines to do some pretty important things that don't require too much processing power but are still very important.

Just one last thing -- in your example, you have the cheap processor because you aren't actually using it for the processing power, so ANY processor will do.  With these supercomputer calculations, though, it's ALL about the processing power, that's the entire POINT (right?).  So although your example is interesting, I don't think it's really on point. 

Now, if you were using that Core Solo processor to do something that would take a week for it to crunch (completely made up timeframe) for the cost savings over a processor that would take two days to crunch the same job (made up again), and the cost savings was a fair trade for you, then that would be an equivalent situation IMO. 

But I'm OK with letting the argument itself drop, I just had a side issue with the last example you put forth. 



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