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@NJ5: Ugh.

I could be mistaken here, but Valve had nothing to do with the Team Fortress ideas, they just bought out the old Quake mod. Same with Counter-Strike.

I'm not a fan of single player first person games (haven't yet tried portal), which is why I think Valve is so overrated - my favorite IPs of theirs are things they didn't even create. Okay, I guess most of my hate comes from what they did to Counter-Strike... I'm sure they're a positive force in the industry, just never been a fan of what I've played from them so far.


As for the bitching on Gabe, yeah... I don't think Valve is the one with the financial troubles.