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Pristine20 said:
wfz said:
Pristine20 said:
epsilon72 said:
Pristine20 said:

There are varying degrees and different forms of love. You can change the definition to suit whatever you want, to pretend like it can't exist, but that hardly changes the feelings many people have for others. I'm not arguing about anything else you said, but I really think it's a bit silly for you to deny that the feeling of love itself doesn't exist. You can argue back if you want, I find it hard to argue about love with logic and facts, but the truth is, love isn't something that is so easily defined. I'm not a psychologist, but I've felt really deep and caring feelings for people, and to me that's love.

I just want to put one thought in your head to think about though, most of "us" don't see love as one specific state, there are varying types of love for different relationships, and there are varying degrees of it, just like with any other emotion.

I will also say this, and it's been shown countless times in history, people WILL die to protect another person. Are you seriously denying this happens? I don't know your exact definition of love, but it's very possible that your idea of it doesn't exist. That however, doesn't mean that other people don't feel very attached and caring to others. Maybe you just need to redefine what love means to you.

Damn, arguing about what an emotion is and who feels it and when is pretty damn hard to do with logic and facts. I'd have just as hard a time arguing about what being "happy" is. It's really easy to twist and convolute these types of things to fit what you want it to.

One last thing though; lets say that I have this definiton in my head for what "happy" means. Now the definition I have set up for "happy" is beyond reach of what humans actually feel, but that doesn't mean that they aren't having those feelings of elation that they call "happiness", right? Or does everyone stop feeling "happy" because my definition of it is different from theirs?

This turned out a hella lot longer than I anticipated.

I applaud you for actually taking the time to respond to my post instead of having a childish reaction.

I think I get your point about love. I guess it's up to each person to define it for themselves. It's just that these days, many are unsure of their own definitions, judging by the "break up" rates but you're right. I shouldn't be the one to define it for others. I guess I just like to define everything and quantify as much as possible but I'll have to put this one aside.

Good points man. As for me, I'm still an observer and a social "tester" so I'll learn more with time. Cheers.

 

 

By break up rates, you mean with divorce right? I think that people tend to jump the gun when it comes to relationships, and oftentimes choose people who aren't actually well suited for them, just because their decisions are being overwhelmed by their emotions.

Like I said in my last post, there are different degrees and forms of love, and I think the biggest mistake people make is thinking that there is only one kind and almost no fluctuation in degree. They have strong feelings for another person, assume it's the same type of love that people with longlasting relationships have, and get burned later on. Not all love lasts, and not all love makes for great lasting relationships. It would be extremely helpful if the English language had more words for the different variations of love like most other languages do (from what I know of).

I do think that you need more than just love to make a relationship really blossom and work for life. Respect is definitely one of those things. Obviously sharing the same goals, liking similar daily activities, and having fun things to do that you both enjoy can really bring a lot to a relationship and help as well.

Humans are complicated... finding someone you want to be with for the rest of your life isn't supposed to be easy or straightforward. There is a lot more to it than being attracted to the other person and being infatuated with them.

Anyways, that's what I believe contributes to the high divorce rate, among other relationship problems.